From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 28 14:18:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6146106568D for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:18:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891B88FC32 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:18:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1486 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2009 14:18:53 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 28 Oct 2009 14:18:53 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id AF292508A7; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:18:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Lars Eighner To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4AE5F897.3000103@rawbw.com> <200910270916.31033.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <20091027021723.M88213@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> <20091027142502.Q91143@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> <20091027191626.T92033@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> <57d710000910271741p7429d4feh150ecbe6cddd3d2e@mail.gmail.com> <20091027202430.X92294@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> <87d448wamy.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20091027234600.A93064@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:18:52 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20091027234600.A93064@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> (Lars Eighner's message of "Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:46:07 -0500 (CDT)") Message-ID: <44fx93y52r.fsf_-_@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: m4 (was Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:18:54 -0000 Lars Eighner writes: > On Wed, 28 Oct 2009, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > >> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:24:38 -0500 (CDT), Lars Eighner wrote: >>> Evidently by making it necessary to learn yet another scripting >>> language to configure it. Other than personal profit I cannot see why >>> people are clinging like grim death to something this fubar. Really, >>> let's go past this one more time: >>> >>> "Sure, sendmail.cf is hard to work with so the solution is you learn m4!" >>> >>> Did you look at the link he offered? How helpful is that? >>> >>> Beside which, m4 is a PORT. So if sendmail is not configurable >>> without a port, why isn't it a port? >> >> Can we go back to our regular hacking, please? m4 is not a port: >> >> $ which m4 >> /usr/bin/m4 > > Evidently my package database is corrupt in some way, because it shows m4 as > an installed port. I wonder how that happened, how to fix it, and if it > will bite if I leave it alone. The port one is the Gnu version. The base system one is the traditional one that goes back to the AT&T days, although it has been updated to meet POSIX. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/