From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 20 22:30:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rfnj.org (rfnj.org [216.239.237.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8F237B405 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 22:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from megalomaniac.biosys.net (megalomaniac.rfnj.org [216.239.237.200]) by rfnj.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC051367B; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 01:31:22 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011021012339.00b2b3a8@rfnj.org> X-Sender: asym@rfnj.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 01:32:13 -0400 To: Kal Torak , FreeBSD Stable From: Allen Landsidel Subject: Re: ICQ with NAT problems In-Reply-To: <3BD2538D.80604@quake.com.au> References: <3BD21435.4060605@quake.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 02:48 PM 10/21/2001 +1000, Kal Torak wrote: >Thanks for the replies, but let me make it clear what I >am saying.. I read your problem.. now let me state that you are mistaken. ICQ does not operate this way. Let me elaborate: The first thing ICQ does is create a connection to the server. This is an outgoing connection to TCP port 5190 on login.icq.com. After this, it opens listening TCP ports in the (default) range of 1024-65535. These are used only for client-client communications. UDP is not involved anywhere. I know the "dumb" FAQ for ICQ still says that, but the detailed FAQ @ http://www.icq.com/icqtour/firewall/netadmin.html makes no mention of it. So, you have two options. #1 Run a Socks proxy. You have said you (for whatever reason, it's really not a bad idea) don't want to do this. #2 Configure ICQ to use a certain range of listening TCP ports. Use a different port range on each machine that will be running ICQ, and configure NAT to forward connections to these ports appropriately. I've done both things on connections from a T1 all the way down to 28.8kbps multiuser modem connection, and they work fine.. I really would suggest the proxy though, they exist to solve just such problems.. trying other methods is really a bit like trying to hammer a square peg into a round hole; You're behind NAT, and you have to deal with it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message