From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 20:43:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64E8346E for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 20:43:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qe0-x232.google.com (mail-qe0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c02::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2395A2FB7 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 20:43:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qe0-f50.google.com with SMTP id a11so7183832qen.37 for ; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:43:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=uzASOMwhBipG35qViWbaOEGCAMHFXCADxbY0k9iMAgM=; b=uJo1H3cvYzRKSQMzRk3ACtSh5vBP1lnE6NvtYf+NuH3EfKjEjlun+fMm9R6rgAbbe0 dwRyK7+aUvceeVllfuuAfTc3PeZBHFizXJvPPM6F8IWIxA3UvT5PVY6ykbQZQ+zdDbJt CZzCKWCSVYl4RnRqVr3Xq5mBm7+JqKyjtUsavepM05UxPkKbni6ns3ud3TSntzL1v9Te VdUBfHMCNmJL//5lHABLxDNiWHnDFjMl22LeVcyOjcJvq4idWJW5gt1B//V+2rtMllzT ooEvcRwZbRmv2UVOH2o4FR+fCnfLShJTmQZKrUTDXZDiKpXOOsQVYO4ynEmTjnH7CXSo UU4w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.51.131 with SMTP id d3mr6759410qag.0.1381264994286; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:43:14 -0700 (PDT) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.224.207.66 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 13:43:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <60177810-8DC4-4EA3-8040-A834B79039D2@orthanc.ca> <52538EDC.2080001@freebsd.org> <52541202.3010707@mu.org> <20131008.170444.74714516.sthaug@nethelp.no> <525422B6.9040906@mu.org> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 13:43:14 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: TRkg8DUzMvakxpTtenC-E6gV9bM Message-ID: Subject: Re: rcs From: Adrian Chadd To: Graham Todd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: Alfred Perlstein , freebsd-current X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 20:43:15 -0000 I've iterated my views on these things a few times. I honestly am not all _that_ interested in trying to build a polished OS. I'd rather participate in building an OS toolkit that let's PCBSD, pfsense, "that storage appliance I keep forgetting the name of (heh)", etc all build OSes on top of it. I'm hoping that some group will take FreeBSD- as 10.x and later evolves, combines it with pkgng and some package development policies, and rolls OSes that people actually want to use and deploy. I don't mind if that's called pc-bsd. I'd be running pcbsd right now if it were doing drops against -head. I believe this may be happening soon. Just saying.. :-) -adrian