From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 14 07:07:43 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C24AA7193 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2016 07:07:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x234.google.com (mail-vk0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BDD0C180B for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2016 07:07:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x234.google.com with SMTP id e6so87256068vkh.2 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 23:07:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Lfm/3OeO6KyUm6phjRW/2Fmk+6Q+oxnDMtT81y/huMo=; b=VUkS3AzriBHK7F9lKg0M8CcvXLtH+cGyBUVUAHnn6/tBbVyYGvaYiyVMBvCwPmaK7o Qu/B2TGHcj5H65nrg/ciwuZxY4Ui6ieX5QDn6gAK3dCsbVkIfJgy94VWCRmnJ+HuzxHs jBh2ZbubTeHe4UyaVp/jAqks82qaDME/X6iaNnXmKKGyaEzt+HlpGHIS/PQh/rkCesC6 ePUiDqrAMFVU3CHgRHvCVafvOCjSyRmnh6LuQcMO2J07dipJ2G29yMx8VVHCjSWbjhOH xT1O/0Ecuyj03Tm3vPwvBb4jQQVjYuXWYX+2jx6e/PzWUlkb8rpIvaQfns9sGTKbWx7S iqHg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Lfm/3OeO6KyUm6phjRW/2Fmk+6Q+oxnDMtT81y/huMo=; b=IWDmwcPRBfiVi+gnENtYraKbIzqQBtaqz81ugSj+jqHTg/C2zWvpFPgku6YHmXr/9s +6ovc9Dq9lJRodYdO4C0kCc/hK2Q8Dl/IBMRlSeh8Q4IJmLogjg+Brm/3vbzaIrqGyoA 8h+DgCpJlWya0mOT8wsDxeCl8Z8uXYrwCVoXKP9AQxnqtn0ojXx57sAwj5puI6o0Mr8r ncaLwtY4BOOnTKxY8ZYnaI26aGgAyG8o0hMXegmMMDlxzByFQJ6nPUmGmRSsY3qU7oDn Kz957BIttWkHCOrDDYNrsxhehJ1wMKsQLa/v6UiMXMahkLtl3PmnT+pWy6FtE3nETaLd i9OQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOSKEEVfZgNWrfgHRRaOb6UcOl7wc7/eB+Oamu9xkO2AaKDfElV97n4GAaWOg4Kd2/OBF1Dr7kUbP6FxKw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.31.52.68 with SMTP id b65mr8303443vka.150.1455433661775; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 23:07:41 -0800 (PST) Sender: kob6558@gmail.com Received: by 10.176.67.37 with HTTP; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 23:07:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20160210225715.GA7804@biertje.skysmurf.nl> References: <56B754A8.3030605@marino.st> <20160208064305.GB63030@server.rulingia.com> <56B8454F.8060605@marino.st> <1454923852.4807.19.camel@mathiaspicker.net> <56B8662A.2050502@marino.st> <56BBAFB7.9080509@marino.st> <20160210223156.GA7724@biertje.skysmurf.nl> <56BBBB33.7030200@marino.st> <20160210225715.GA7804@biertje.skysmurf.nl> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 23:07:41 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: dJf6d7iApU54FTXstr63yTn3KK4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Removing documentation From: Kevin Oberman To: Alphons van Werven Cc: John Marino , Freddie Cash , Peter Jeremy , FreeBSD Mailing List , Mathias Picker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 07:07:43 -0000 On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Alphons van Werven wrote: > John Marino wrote: > > > Well, if I make the assume that Kevin has been using portmaster, and > > that using Synth revealed 42 obsolete cached configurations, I would > > have to conclude PM doesn't do this anymore or does it very poorly and > > misses a large number of configs. > > Using the latest version of Portmaster, I feel confident in stating that > the "doesn't do this anymore" part appears to be false. My money is on > incomplete detection, i.e. detecting only a subset (but doing at least > that part correctly) of all possible kinds of option changes. > > However, I did not intend to sidetrack the discussion. As previously > mentioned, it's just an observation. > > Fonz > Well, I just tracked down the details for sysutils/tmux. I picked it because it was at the bottom of the list. I checked every update to the port going back to the version when the options file was created, 1.9a_1. Comparing that to the current version, there have been no options changes at all. Not to the options offered nor to the defaults. I am baffled as to what is going on. Looks like portmaster might be doing this a bit better than synth does. -- Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683