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Date:      Sat, 13 Jan 2001 16:23:57 +0100
From:      Gerhard Sittig <Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net>
To:        Doug Barton <DougB@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: how to test out cron.c changes? (was: cvs commit: src/etc crontab)
Message-ID:  <20010113162357.R253@speedy.gsinet>
In-Reply-To: <3A5D7762.DC8DE5D@FreeBSD.org>; from DougB@FreeBSD.org on Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 01:05:38AM -0800
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On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 01:05 -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
> Gerhard Sittig wrote:
> > 
> > Looking at the echo returning so far
> 
> Which represents a very small percentage of the people who need
> to look at the change. A significant percentage (probably a
> majority) of the people who are freebsd developers abandoned
> -hackers long ago.

How am I supposed to know?  Especially after asking "how to?
where to go?" without getting this kind of redirection?  That's
been part of what rises frustration when you don't know whether
you're plain wrong or just unheard.  But we had the OT discussion
already and don't need to replay it here ...

> > BTW:  There's good news for those with a dislike regarding
> > the change: 
> 
> You and your associates keep trying to cast this in personal
> terms.

Not to leave a false impression:  I don't have any "associates"
here.  It just happened that there was no unisono rejection and
some readers thought (like I did) teaching cron about DST would
be a good idea.  The always bubbling up threads and PRs may have
led there.

> It is not that I dislike your idea. I think your idea is
> dangerous, and wrong for the project. There is a big
> difference. 

OK, in the meantime I did what I didn't want to bother you with:
setup another OpenBSD machine and have it run some test.  It's
just that toying with DST without artificially jumping the clock
(and thus falsifying the test, see my other message) takes a few
days for a single cycle.  And we all have our day jobs.  As well
as other spare time projects.  Some of us even have a real life.

I hope to have come back to reasonable and technically based
discussion with the summary I just sent out in the other reply.
That's the kind of "redirection towards what will be a real
solution" I hoped to get together with the refusal in case my
first approach was wrong.  It obviously took some laps to get
there ... :)


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