From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 20:33:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A5B816A4CE for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 20:33:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ion.franksworld.org (vhost.domainatlantic.com [67.18.185.244]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78FE543D31 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 20:33:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from laszlof@vonostingroup.com) Received: (qmail 80917 invoked by uid 98); 12 Oct 2004 15:35:09 -0000 Received: from laszlof@vonostingroup.com by ion.franksworld.org by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.20 (clamdscan: 0.75.1. Clear:RC:0(68.72.248.38):SA:0(?/?):. Processed in 3.113167 secs); 12 Oct 2004 15:35:09 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=? required=? Received: from unknown (HELO vonostingroup.com) (frank@cpmsg.com@68.72.248.38) by vhost.domainatlantic.com with SMTP; 12 Oct 2004 15:35:06 -0000 Message-ID: <416C3F7F.5000100@vonostingroup.com> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:33:03 -0400 From: Frank Laszlo User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (Windows/20040207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Newton References: <416C3B42.9040501@ig.com.br> In-Reply-To: <416C3B42.9040501@ig.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Installer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 20:33:08 -0000 Newton wrote: > Dear Friends : I'm a Linux user since 1,999 and I'm really interested > in start FreeBSD. OK, it's a new system, different versions and so on. > My experience with computers started with Basic, after MS-DOS, Windows > and Linux. When I tried Linux, 5 years-ago, partitions, kde, window > maker and many of them, were only words. My first fear, was erase my > HD. I did it many times, but I knew how to start again or recover. I'm > writing these things, cause in these years using Linux, I saw a big > evolution , specially the installer. Mandrake, Red Hat, Fedora, > Slackware and another, made a goob job and you can do it , almost > without problems. But, when I tried FreeBSD installer, I remembered > Debian, the worst installer ! Probably another distributions, like > Knoppix, Kurumin , Gnoppix to name a few, trying to make the life user > easiest ! My first experience with FreeBSD, was 5.0, with a PC Master, > brazilian magazine. After many tries, a XFree86 error, when I typed > startx, disappointed me again and, I forgot it... On the last month, I > downloaded the 2 CDs, 5.2.1, and, the same installer, errors, infinite > loops... very disappointing ! I tried many lists, and with some > support,to resolve or not, the problems. Again, I format my system > and, here I am, with Windows (mainly for games and a problematic usb > scanner) and Linux. I need a more stable system. Many people talked me > very good about FreeBSD. For me, until now , the biggest deception ! > Please, I don't know the FreeBSD objectives, but if you would like > that more and more people can use it, CHANGE this installer. Confuse , > in one word ! Disappointing ! I tried standard, express, custom , all > packages, minimum, all kind of ways... I can't understand a looped > install. Almost 2 hours after, an error... My video card is recognized > , but when you did post-install, not ! You tried many XFrre86 configs > and not.... When something happens and finally you can start KDE or > GNOME or another, DHCP don't run and so on. Please change this > installer and trying to better hardware and network configuration ! > Until this, I'll never tried FreeBSD again ! Sincerely, Newton - > Curitiba - Brazil I'm sure its just the language barrier, but try to use your return key sometime :) and yes, sysinstall isnt very good, it could be vast improved upon. Not that freebsd should have an installer like Fedora, SuSE, etc.., but theres definately room for improvement. -Frank Laszlo