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Date:      Mon, 5 Jun 2000 13:09:29 -0400 
From:      "Yevmenkin, Maksim N, CSCIO" <myevmenkin@att.com>
To:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   RE: kerneld for FreeBSD 
Message-ID:  <E598F159668DD311B9C700902799EAF4473416@njb140po01.ems.att.com>

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> > 1) right now we have several places in kernel/user space where we 
> > load KLD. if we need add dynamic module loading in some new 
> > place we  will have to duplicate all code
> 
> This isn't necessarily bad, as it is this code which determines the 
> criteria for loading a module.  I'm not entirely keen on having this 

ifconfig(8) uses kldfirstmod(2), kldnext(2) etc. to check if the 
required interface module in the memory or not. all mount_???(8) 
utilities use getvfsbyname(3), vfsisloadable(3) and vfsload(3) 
interface, which makes kernel code useless (kernel will never execute this
code).

> thrown away; especially since all you'd be doing would be 
> replacing it 
> with code which would invoke the kernel daemon.




> 
> > 2) kernel/user space does not unload modules, unless you
> > unload it manually
> 
> This is, IMO, a good idea.  I certainly don't want some 
> smartass daemon 
> unloading a module just because it thinks it should. 8)
> 
> > 3) we can not configure which module should be loaded. 
> > it is hardcoded
> 
> Since the code knows what it wants, this isn't necessarily a 
> bad thing 
> either.  In most cases, part of the module name is actually 
> parametric, 
> eg. in the ifconfig(8) case, so this isn't as much of a problem as it 
> sounds.
> 
> Basically, I think that the current practice of 
> demand-loading modules 
> from inside the kernel is the way to go.  There are a couple of cases 
> where pushing them in from the outside (ifconfig, usb, 
> pccard) works, but 
> in each case these already have tools suited to the job.
> 
> -- 
> \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\  Mike Smith
> \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself,  \\  
> msmith@freebsd.org
> \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime.             \\  msmith@cdrom.com
> 
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