From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 26 06:11:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33F91065675 for ; Sat, 26 May 2012 06:11:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BC198FC0A for ; Sat, 26 May 2012 06:11:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q4Q6BLvd033989; Sat, 26 May 2012 08:11:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q4Q6BL2h033986; Sat, 26 May 2012 08:11:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 08:11:20 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: ajtiM In-Reply-To: <201205252012.07799.lumiwa@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <201205252012.07799.lumiwa@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 26 May 2012 08:11:21 +0200 (CEST) Cc: kde-list freebsd , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why I am upset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 06:11:22 -0000 > I am running KDE 4.8 from January on my Linux computer. Now is almost June and > we got KDE 4.8 on FreeBSD too. 5 months testing and it works? No. The modern > OS for the desktop computer doesn;t works. O.K. OS works but installatoon of 5 > months testing of KDE doesn;t. so stop using trendy "desktop" and just start to do actual work and you will not be upset any more but happy. "Desktop environments" offer exactly zero value and do nothing. Just use fvwm2, maybe icewm, tune it to your needs and start working. use xterm as your "start button" by starting program you need from command like. configure fvwm2 to have multiple "virtual desktop" switchable by keystrokes so you will have something like standard text console just in X11 with ability to run X11 programs. in most cases - run one program on one virtual desktop. Multiple windows on screen is only fashionable but useless in practice. After a while you will end in removing every unneeded things that are only fashionable but just wastes time and monitor space. For example window frames and titles. "Desktop environments" are required so average winuser will not protest too much when i do X11 terminal based configuration. but i use gnome2 this case with gdm as it is far faster (==less slow) than KDE, and as well as KDE gives nothing but looks more windows-like.