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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 98139f0cac7bb587be65eb4563b0bd4d; Wed, 29 Oct 2025 03:08:32 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Millard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3826.700.81\)) Subject: Re: PKGBASE upgrade from ALPHAxx to BETAxx ['"FreeBSD-base" . . . will be disabled by default, in order to avoid "pkg delete -af" problems' ?] Message-Id: <09CA14D2-6A50-4725-B353-5C0D1C93AF41@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2025 20:08:21 -0700 Cc: Baptiste Daroussin To: Colin Percival , Lexi Winter , FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.700.81) References: <09CA14D2-6A50-4725-B353-5C0D1C93AF41.ref@yahoo.com> X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.66.147:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.66.147:from]; APPLE_MAILER_COMMON(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_HAS_QUESTION(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cxByr00wCz3Mxb Colin Percival wrote on Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 18:04:51 UTC : > . . . > > I'm planning on putting a "FreeBSD-base" repository configuration into > /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf in 15. It will be disabled by default, in order > to avoid "pkg delete -af" problems, but "pkg upgrade -r FreeBSD-base" > should work out of the box. https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=290344#c6 has examples showing that this does not work (main 16 test context, which I forgot to mention there). It is based on just using -a (not -f, not -y) and seeing if any FreeBSD-* are referenced in the output: there are such involved. One of the examples has pkg locked. That does prevent any deletion of anything. With pkg unlocked things were odder but it asked about if FreeBSD-libvmmapi-dev should be removed from the request. The examples have the commands and the outputs. That is one reason that I reference my comment instead of other reports that are around. I'm not the first to report on the issue. This is separate from my earlier reports that: pkg upgrade -r FreeBSD-base does not "work out of the box" when FreeBSD-base is disabled. Even "pkg update -r FreeBSD-base" does not work for that =kind of context. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com