From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 13 18:19:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B68A16A4CE for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:19:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from diehard.n-r-g.com (diehard.n-r-g.com [62.48.3.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F9C43D3F for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:19:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cjeker@diehard.n-r-g.com) Received: (qmail 1600 invoked by uid 1001); 13 Apr 2005 18:19:32 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:19:09 +0200 From: Claudio Jeker To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050413181931.GA16696@diehard.n-r-g.com> Mail-Followup-To: Claudio Jeker , freebsd-net@freebsd.org References: <425196F0.4020309@x-trader.de> <6731347a839d85db456b1c5a33bcf0b5@mac.com> <864qeibp0v.fsf@xps.des.no> <20050413171132.B96104@electra.nolink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20050413171132.B96104@electra.nolink.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i Subject: Re: FreeVRRPd project status X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:19:31 -0000 On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 05:14:52PM +0200, Lars Erik Gullerud wrote: > On Thu, 7 Apr 2005, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > > >Charles Swiger writes: > >>It's dead, I think: Cisco's lawyers started making predatory noises > >>about their "intellectual property". Some people from NetBSD are > >>working on a replacement called CARP, which you might want to check > >>out-- it seems that FreeBSD will be picking up support for this soon, > >>as well. > > > >CARP comes from OpenBSD, not NetBSD, and is already in FreeBSD. > > ...and can't safely be deployed in a lot of datacenter scenarios where > the providers gear is running VRRP, since the OpenBSD-folks didn't bother > to read up on how the process of obtaining a protocol number works, and > hence used the one assigned to VRRP after a half-baked attempt at getting > one themselves. Hence making CARP pretty much useless for ISPs, no matter > how good it may or may not be otherwise. > This is not true. First of all the "OpenBSD-folks" asked IANA for protocol numbers for CARP and pfsync but IANA denied it. The reason was that CARP was not developped through an official standards organization. -- :wq Claudio