From owner-cvs-all Wed Nov 21 15:25:33 2001 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mail.musha.org (daemon.musha.org [61.122.44.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE6E37B417; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:25:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from archon.local.idaemons.org (archon.local.idaemons.org [192.168.1.32]) by mail.musha.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C3474D81A; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 08:25:26 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 08:25:26 +0900 Message-ID: <86lmgzaeqh.wl@archon.local.idaemons.org> From: "Akinori MUSHA" To: Mike Barcroft Cc: Brian Somers , Sheldon Hearn , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/man/man1 builtin.1 src/bin/sh Makefile builtins.def sh.1 src/usr.bin/printf printf.1 In-Reply-To: <20011121145022.B63472@espresso.q9media.com> References: <5181.1006282330@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> <200111211058.fALAwDj01626@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> <8666844buz.wl@archon.local.idaemons.org> <20011121145022.B63472@espresso.q9media.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.7.5 (Too Funky) SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) LIMIT/1.14.7 (Fujiidera) APEL/10.3 MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 14) (Cuyahoga Valley) (i386--freebsd) Organization: Associated I. Daemons X-PGP-Public-Key: finger knu@FreeBSD.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: 081D 099C 1705 861D 4B70 B04A 920B EFC7 9FD9 E1EE MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:50:22 -0500, Mike Barcroft wrote: > Akinori MUSHA writes: > > However, I'm not willing to MFC the removal to STABLE because it may > > force the STABLE users to rewrite their hacked rc scripts, while we > > don't need to care that much about the CURRENT users. > > That's a misconception. -CURRENT will eventually become -STABLE, so > it's important that -CURRENT not be radically different from -STABLE. I can't agree with that. CURRENT is supposed to change occasionally radically. CURRENT is CURRENT while it's CURRENT, not STABLE. Too many things are already radically different from STABLE. Besides, we have more than ten months before the 5.0-RELEASE. > A new point-zero release is a good opportunity to change things that > shouldn't be changed in an established branch, but doesn't give one > carte blanche to make changes that make the transition from 4.x to 5.x > even more difficult. I don't get it. Please explain how the removal of the printf builtin makes the transition more difficult, when all the system scripts have been properly modified not to rely on it. -- / /__ __ Akinori.org / MUSHA.org / ) ) ) ) / FreeBSD.org / Ruby-lang.org Akinori MUSHA aka / (_ / ( (__( @ iDaemons.org / and.or.jp "Somewhere out of a memory.. of lighted streets on quiet nights.." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message