From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 16 18:54:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n37.san.rr.com (dt051n37.san.rr.com [204.210.32.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C72B37B424; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 18:54:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n37.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA51289; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 18:54:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <39C4244D.376AF636@gorean.org> Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 18:54:21 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-091 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Garance A Drosihn Cc: Kris Kennaway , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I'll be rolling a 4.1.1 release on September 25th References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [snipping] Garance A Drosihn wrote: > You left out the exact steps on how someone who does not have > commit privs is supposed to "get their patch applied". > After spending ten times more effort trying to get someone to > apply the patch than was originally spent MAKING the patch, > they give up. > > A release is announced. They get a bit excited, and hope once > again to get someone interested. Having been, and to a great extent still being part of the model that Garance is describing, I have to say that this is an excellent description. Since committers get into a "let's slap it in now so that it gets there in time for the release" mood, asking for attention to PR's when releases are announced is not totally unreasonable. Since I've been through it often enough now, I tend to develop a much more long term approach to my PR's and other suggestions. However, as much as I know that Kris was correct in his post, having intimate experience with the non-committer perspective I can empathize with it. Doug -- "The dead cannot be seduced." - Kai, "Lexx" Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message