From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 6 21:47:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00A3C16A41F for ; Tue, 6 Dec 2005 21:47:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C887443D58 for ; Tue, 6 Dec 2005 21:46:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i2so487401wra for ; Tue, 06 Dec 2005 13:46:58 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=gM/dXpSEACWRoABgCUeW3lwqiju4ntDEad5pR+N2vVeYv665+fcYX9vDdfU8aauPPsQmXqVxpDSzidt5F8qIitXvYXtfO1dxlJODaKj3BilyD45buGlyZowDoVgatBMKsMPuvFr39zmWtJF+GuVZXcbTWvTywqtRmfLp/Ps/+ls= Received: by 10.64.253.8 with SMTP id a8mr983103qbi; Tue, 06 Dec 2005 13:46:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.253.2 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Dec 2005 13:46:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54db43990512061346j212fdaabwb270cc4f332a783b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 16:46:56 -0500 From: Bob Johnson To: "Michael P. Soulier" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20051205033740.GA31956@xor.obsecurity.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: kernel panic because I pulled a floppy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 21:47:01 -0000 On 12/5/05, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > On 12/4/05, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > Is this true? If so, it would be the very first Unix that I've seen > > > crash from this kind of user-mistake. > > > > Turns out it's pretty hard to fix. > > Well, all I know is that it does happen on Linux, Solaris... I don't > recall seeing it on HP-UX... > > I've popped floppies on those OSs before without incident when I went > back to the directory. Luckily it's avoidable, just a little > disappointing given FreeBSD's rock-solid reputation. > My understanding, and it could be completely wrong, is that Linux distributions usually use something like amd(8) (the automount daemon) to manage removable devices. They automount automagically when inserted, and unmount when they haven't been used for a while, so if you forget about them and pull them out they are usually not mounted and don't cause problems. You might try setting up amd(8) to see if that makes things more robust. - Bob