From owner-freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Fri Jan 29 01:05:27 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE1C7A71ACA for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2016 01:05:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from zxy.spb.ru (zxy.spb.ru [195.70.199.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE5771AFD for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2016 01:05:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from slw by zxy.spb.ru with local (Exim 4.86 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1aOxV7-000PKq-19; Fri, 29 Jan 2016 04:05:25 +0300 Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 04:05:24 +0300 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov To: Garrett Wollman Cc: freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Packaging the FreeBSD base system with pkg(8) Message-ID: <20160129010524.GI88527@zxy.spb.ru> References: <20160127223323.GG98557@FreeBSD.org> <183431.62409.bm@smtp111.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20160128131806.GB67200@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <20160128160622.GB88527@zxy.spb.ru> <22186.43196.374050.48765@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> <20160129001525.GH88527@zxy.spb.ru> <22186.45987.44063.515924@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <22186.45987.44063.515924@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: slw@zxy.spb.ru X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zxy.spb.ru); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Packaging the FreeBSD base system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 01:05:28 -0000 On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 07:34:43PM -0500, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > Source upgrade is self-contained and don't depend from environment. > > Contrary to binary upgrade may depend of environment: presents pkg.txz > > on ftp.freebsd.org, freebsd.org ovned by project and etc. As result, > > in case of bad design, you can't upgrade from 11.0 nowhere (ex: packages > > for 11.x outdated and deleted, pkg.txz from latest suported release > > can't be run on 11.0, pkg from 11.0 can't be parsed latest format). > > You can always build your own release-package repository, stepping Another question is about complexity own release repository. For example, own freebsd-update server is too complex and incorrectly build. > through the intermediate source releases just as you would do now. > All you need to do is preserve the last release package set you build > from each stable branch. I am talk about SUDDENLY discovered outdated setup.