From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 22 16:29:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA18313 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 16:29:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vnode.vmunix.com (vnode.vmunix.com [209.112.4.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18293 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 16:29:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chrisc@vmunix.com) Received: from localhost (chrisc@localhost) by vnode.vmunix.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA10007; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 19:28:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chrisc@vmunix.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 19:28:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Coleman X-Sender: chrisc@vnode To: Sue Blake cc: Tim Gerchmez , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrading and Use of this list (gentle reminder) In-Reply-To: <19980723090047.45011@welearn.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > A few FreeBSD users have not bothered to install the sources. Perhaps > they have no room, or never imagined using them. This happens to apply > to a lot of newbies because a lot of home user/learners are newbies. > > A few FreeBSD users don't have a good Internet connection. Perhaps they > dial in from home where combined local or long distance phone charges > and Internet time and/or bandwidth charges (both of which differ hugely > for different contries) can get pretty costly. Around here, for > example, a lot of Internet accounts charge by the minute or > automatically cut you off after say 1-3 hours on line, in order to > reduce overall usage. I suspect that a larger than average proportion > of home newbies have limitations to their Internet access. Sue raised some good points. Resources Needed. Disk Space: Installed Sources: 114683 K Compile Time Disk Space: 113883 K (This is only temporarily needed to store obj files.) Time -Alot of time on a slow machine, Like 24+ hours on a 486 Download time/Internet Connection The hard part in getting the base installed. Once you have a base of /usr/src installed (even and old one.), its really quick and veritably non-Internet intensive to keep current. I download the changed src files daily. Usually about 5 files. Real quick and easy. So if you meet these requirements, it fairly easy to keep current. I put a few lines in my /etc/daily and /etc/monthly to keep my machines current. Disk space would in my opinion be the biggest figure, becuase you can let it compile at night when the cpu is idle anyway, and download smaller chunks daily while it is getting e-mail or something. So storage for the /usr/src and the temporary /usr/obj directories are all that is really a obstacle in this scenario. You can learn how to do this very easily. -Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message