From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 15 11:23:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E631C16A4BF for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2003 11:23:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from krell.webweaver.net (krell.webweaver.net [64.124.90.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0FCD43FBF for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2003 11:23:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nicole@unixgirl.com) Received: from vorlon1.webweaver.net (vorlon1.webweaver.net [67.112.21.26]) by krell.webweaver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ECDD20F06; Mon, 15 Sep 2003 11:23:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20030915034954.D46787@fubar.adept.org> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 11:22:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicole To: Mike Hoskins cc: FreeBSD Advocacy Subject: Re: FreeBSD Revamped Look 'n' feel: Feedback appreciated! X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 18:23:10 -0000 On 15-Sep-03 My Homeland Security Spies reported that Mike Hoskins said: > On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: >> Indeed. Has anybody ever checked out http://sun.com? > > heh. even oracle had a text-only front page up for a long while. part of > trying to cheat 'homepage download times' i believe, but the point is you > can be very big/successful/trusted(?) in the 'business world' and not have > a website cluttered with javascript and flashy graphics. > > if someone makes the site better, great... but i like the current site a > lot, and i'd want any changes to actually be better, not just different. No one said it has to have Java, and spinning logo's and other annoyances, just a site that is face friendly to non techie's. IE the usual up front Contacts listings (warm and fuzzy thing there with them) Quick links to success stories and testimonials and other such gooberish that excites managers. I think manay managers want the same thing.. Its a Cover Their Ass thing. IE they want something They can point to ti Their boss, especially if something oes wrong. As I understand it managers think in these terms: (i'm sure people can add more) ROI Can I find competent people who can use it Can I easily train somone to use it Can I call or have them call someone to bail us out in a crisis. Can it really do the job? What if it can't? What will it do to / for my budget Can I point to something to get a cover my ass OK from above. With the amount of free publicity Linux has as well as all the companies tied in making servers installed with it and the rep calls from Sun.. etc.. FreeBSD needs to be that more agressive in it's promototion if it wants to jumpstart it's usage. So far I have seen some good things. But even a Managers go here link off the main site geared to them would be a good idea. So Ok a complete change too much for ya? Let him design a link off the main site to be management friendly or as someone suggested a freebsd.com freebsd.org split! Yea its silly. But look at VHS vs Beta. Technical supereriority did not win. No manager wants to buy something that they fear could be a BetaMax. Nicole > -mrh > > -- > From: "Spam Catcher" > To: spam-catcher@adept.org > Do NOT send email to the address listed above or > you will be added to a blacklist! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- ******* |\ __ /| (`\ ******* * * | o_o |__ ) ) * * * * // \\ * * * Blessed Be! | Powered by FreeBSD * ----------------------(((---(((-------------------------------- http://www.unixgirl.com - http://www.deviantimages.com http://www.drumslayer.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- "We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of the dreams." --Willy Wonka, Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. "Witchcraft is in essence the worship of the powers of this world, beautiful and terrible, but all in a circle under the turning sky that is the One." -C.A. Burland, "Echoes of Magic" "Connecting with energy is something humans have to be open to and talking about and expecting, otherwise the whole human race can go back to pretending that life is about power over others and exploiting the planet. If we go back to doing this, then we won't survive." -James Redfield, "The Celestine Prophecy"