From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 08:54:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E2531065673 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 08:54:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B612A8FC17 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 08:54:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1SHAMY-0007xu-By>; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 10:54:14 +0200 Received: from e178034252.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.34.252] helo=thor.walstatt.dyndns.org) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1SHAMY-0002tg-6E>; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 10:54:14 +0200 Message-ID: <4F82A3AF.3050207@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 10:54:07 +0200 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.3) Gecko/20120314 Thunderbird/10.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Wolfskill References: <4F8176A0.807@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20120408152915.GU1420@albert.catwhisker.org> In-Reply-To: <20120408152915.GU1420@albert.catwhisker.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD4CE7B7E49B209A3FD9D4820" X-Originating-IP: 85.178.34.252 Cc: Current FreeBSD Subject: Re: xdm failing to start on FBSD 10.0 r2340030 erratically X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 08:54:21 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD4CE7B7E49B209A3FD9D4820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 04/08/12 17:29, schrieb David Wolfskill: > On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 01:29:36PM +0200, O. Hartmann wrote: >> I loose hair ... >> Since yesterady's "make world" (last make world: the day before >> yesterday), getting FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT/amd64 to r234000 or so, the X= 11 >> system on all of our FreeBSD 10.0-CUR/amd64 boxes start rejecting the >> start of xdm display manager. xdm is started from /etc/ttys on ttyv7. >> This worked before flawless. >> >> At this very moment, I do have X11 started via xdm - but this is a >> erratic and non-reproduceable process! >> >> This morning, I update world and kernel to r234030. I recompiled many >> ports via "portmaster -f xorg xdm", hoping the new kernel/world could >> affect the ports, but this isn't. >> >> Starting Xorg X11 server works fine. xdm fails. The log in >> /var/log/xdm.log looks like: >> >> Build Date: 07 April 2012 04:51:08PM >> ... >> >> >> I feel a bit helpless around here since I can not get close to what is= >> happening. The erratic behaviour of starting xdm is frightening. >> Starting xdm via /etc/ttys doesn't work at all, but sometimes, with a >> bit luck, xdm starts when started from the console. >> .... >=20 > I am not having trouble starting xdm via /etc/ttys; my environment is > known to differ from yours in the following ways: >=20 > * My ports (save for x11/nvidia-driver and misc/compat8x) are built > under stable/8. (I track stable/8, stable/9, and head on a daily > basis, and have a common /usr/local among them. I also update > any installed ports that have updates available daily.) >=20 > * I am running FreeBSD/i386, vs. FreeBSD/amd64. >=20 > * My last 2 updates were r233994 (yesterday) and r234031 (today). >=20 > * I have a mildly hacked-up startup script for xdm. I doubt this is an= > issue -- I've been doing this since 2006/03/05 19:04:03 (according to= > the RCS log), though I have modified the script a few times > since its inception. But the point here is that I'm not directly > invoking the xdm executable from /etc/ttys. When I start xdm via console, it starts up, but only with a "Xservers" file that contains nothing but comments. If there are the lines localhost 127.0.0.1 192.168.0.128 !* it will will probably start not. Since xdm does not show this behaviour in a reproducible manner I susepct a bug. >=20 > * I don't know that this is different, but it may well be: my xorg.con= f > includes a stanza: >=20 > Section "ServerFlags" > Option "AutoAddDevices" "False" > EndSection I should go with this and try. But as far as I know, since I have USB devices (mouse, keyboard), unpluggin and pluggin them is then, without hal and dbus, not recognized anymore, isn't it? There was a discussion once going one for this subject. Either way, at this very moment I do not know whether the OS or the X11 is faulty and I'd like to report this as a bug. >=20 > because my experiences with hald & dbus were so unpleasant. I don't > use them; I don't even try to start them. >=20 > Peace, > david Regards, Oliver --------------enigD4CE7B7E49B209A3FD9D4820 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPgqO1AAoJEOgBcD7A/5N8/sUH/3v8yz+6fKMcTgHypPugRW3k 1DIHPANEXkrn8af10uZlNPxIr9PX95CBNZDDvQ7R8gfRcmu5nM5i+hZ9PbDv0Tp4 1jatoiEnV9UUDhrlSyzjpHNNiM2rti4uyXjxOiLzsUtd0Nz4966XBws90GUUj+0r 2AaIEC/jkf80V9dV3kz4ZghKJRv8IgP2WyaOpnNun9nr0ucL2N3m/mpz3dQcxdz7 IloAyOy10Jskq2hL3NSUIrv+c0/jVuvS6Xnzi0BAnpwTA4vrDxyjqCT1rECFmYcs KZZnwxYOH72CAZNnY46Q0/dkNWxkgqDBixPTGD8BNvqyrmkbQn72yVqOLeQ67QI= =9Twu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigD4CE7B7E49B209A3FD9D4820--