From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 28 18:39:53 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FFE1DEAE84 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 18:39:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E85072D0D for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 18:39:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.191.233]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue002 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0MPdcf-1eF5xS420f-004nXy; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 19:39:48 +0100 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 19:39:47 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Ralf Mardorf Cc: Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Questions About Message-Id: <20171128193947.51d0ab48.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20171128060318.7e1df700@archlinux.localdomain> References: <20171127170322.7aaca527bebc2ec32ec95c58@sohara.org> <25393.128.135.52.6.1511807312.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <20171128060318.7e1df700@archlinux.localdomain> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:BJl49mJ8RQP2iMZT7i+YWGHnmcWs/gRWOZ1rBON1IrwdBi3nYLE 4TgI5T5UrSR6nSAeDYEGsqT+WgaRwSUpCI8fyuPfiW48Z3pCdHDxX6gkYXl3cEz+Jxe+Ui2 0TceaJcwnxTfPGP7NWiW0IjJerfiaEWewmYPIwwt4efaJUnQRfoRetq8jDreFOA2cIbEFPG 2dtr6YF2BF+EKwa0pt4xg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:3OAaaP2YauI=:46jqGaWgX19QLN0/uk4SRK AC4atjNAgjQNTXTdEqErsRuQSreWezmI1cyHEeaUrqbHmjUOd51Tu7S0Z/rbBCbKL2xUx458Y Drm2K0hULX2kKqh7aD/jcuLHfiqKuLYokY83wHoTwN4QS4gEBbxpuluEEa58QQo1okm95BVAg FYqLKPwwKJtGBK4p5MbU1IIsnPxMF94sa4MNP7RpkKmbPlwZkA3TGHqqLRM/YIZeohKEVqqST 6N90SrZazQpBqaeHgX1l5mn5ov4MOhG/kLmsi+z7m+vhEFcfCGu3yrfHxUPUHON0yYcqtV2vn vk/FpIm6Y+X+ki9IW0ooZZZp6wJfOINoJB0wGpOqdSBeQEIkKAZIC8lkxx87vrEpKhtIgz/qt fC9/WJ98wQtiFDnieu/o5G34/J4+BvlJNQgWRnnu7HAcGrdIcFvH9K0HnEQDSN+z05eVF7DQ8 wpa2fjPxGEJ+h/FlDucQgyJyQWJDUZLGGi0zGuwhVjgsFiIR7xAwhx/ALn1NbJMmoKCmhCFwf IDz9kN5qVR8NpkS77f5qraDgumghOvdxHAns65YPFa/vAyBShTT3cY1ugpi6fRJm24FqlVtAP D0pShHWveSLQbl0G3mVYOxn7j//0SZGFerB1t5y6jgb7xZTm7gZILfxfc3GSHmEm5gzTQtPSf AToxyl8wTFLnEvlMr/nc5lpXdyiEpVwxIe3j2xG8cZNtNGYwXtt3BSvxh0raLRuGT0PEBqJAn CopLvoJPsuuIhtzThqg1DaGrfra9ZaeJ1btQnNqXpJokr1xZLHpcQyjApDc= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 18:39:53 -0000 On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 06:03:18 +0100, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 17:36:55 -0500, Baho Utot wrote: > >On 11/27/17 13:28, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > >Actually Arch Linux is the best documented system. > > A good example that already Linux distros differ a lot. I'm an Arch > Linux user. One big difference between FreeBSD and all Linux distros > might be the file system. However, the Arch Linux policy differs a lot > to other major Linux distros. That is correct. While the file system is consistent within a BSD (see "man hier"), Linux distributions differ from each other, and sometimes change the overall layout. There is an attempt of standardizing the hierarchy across distributions, but it's not in place for _all_ existing distributions. > Something that FreeBSD and all Linux distros have in common is, that > hardware support is less good than for Microsoft and Apple operating > systems. This is no longer true. Linux is the operating system that supports most of the existing hardware. With "existing", I not just refering to what you can buy today, but also to what you bought yesterday, or 5 years ago. On current "Windows", drivers often don't exist for older hardware, so while being 100 % functional, they cannot be used anymore. Many of those devices can still live a good life under Linux, simply because there is a driver for them which still works. Another problem is that "modern drivers" (for current hardware) are often combined with spyware, and due to bloat, they generally slow down the system. Apple, on the other hand, has a narrow set of supported hardware, but that support is often quite good because the developers _know_ what hardware they need to support. So from the pure "amount of devices", Linux usually wins. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...