From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Thu Oct 15 05:17:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC971A15460 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 05:17:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3725E0 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 05:17:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id A0733A1545E; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 05:17:53 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A00EFA1545D for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 05:17:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E356DF for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 05:17:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.xzibition.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B1F14C2 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 05:17:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.xzibition.com (localhost [172.31.3.2]) by mail.xzibition.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3920EFABE for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 05:17:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.xzibition.com Received: from mail.xzibition.com ([172.31.3.2]) by mail.xzibition.com (mail.xzibition.com [172.31.3.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with LMTP id h2UOdSfxvhUI for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 05:17:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: make -n -n DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 mail.xzibition.com 40C61FAB8 To: arch@FreeBSD.org References: <561F3406.9050906@FreeBSD.org> From: Bryan Drewery Organization: FreeBSD Message-ID: <561F36FD.2080606@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 22:17:49 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <561F3406.9050906@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 05:17:53 -0000 On 10/14/15 10:05 PM, Bryan Drewery wrote: > Does anyone consider 'make -n -n' a thing for top-level builds? > ... > > So having said all of that, the ${_+_} never expands anymore since > r251748 (June 2013). The act of it working in top-level has only been > fixed since r288391 (September 2015). r251750 (June 2013) also makes it so buildworld -n causes a real rm -rf to be executed, so I'm guessing no one even uses this since it has not been fixed yet. > > Given it was broken for this long period I assume no one uses '-n -n' or > even knew about it. > > I would like to remove it (-n -n and _+_) and just use the (bmake) > documented -n and -N flags and use '+' everywhere appropriate. Note that > we use .MAKE in some targets that achieves largely the same thing, but > many sub-make calls don't have a .MAKE and lack a proper '+' to recurse > in Makefile.inc1. > -- Regards, Bryan Drewery