From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 5 20:47:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22AAE106564A; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 20:47:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 008208FC1A; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 20:47:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from 50.216.138.210.bn.2iij.net ([210.138.216.50] helo=rmac.psg.com) by rip.psg.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KFEfW-0008Cl-CH; Sat, 05 Jul 2008 20:47:42 +0000 Message-ID: <486FDDED.20403@psg.com> Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 05:47:41 +0900 From: Randy Bush User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Watson References: <784966050807021123l267aa20en39eb513c12c90ad2@mail.gmail.com> <20080702235800.H47773@fledge.watson.org> <486C8700.5020100@lobraun.de> <20080703092511.T69986@fledge.watson.org> <486F8C57.9050908@wubethiopia.com> <20080705161614.O19209@fledge.watson.org> In-Reply-To: <20080705161614.O19209@fledge.watson.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 20:47:43 -0000 > Sounds pretty much in line with what I was looking for. However, I > think I would like to see it be a bit more complete than sysinstall in > the area of geom partition labeling (concat/strip/raid/encryption), and > perhaps also ZFS support. I realize that adds complexity a fair amount, > but one of the biggest areas of feature lack in sysinstall today is that > you are basically stuck with the original BSD partition structure and > UFS, whereas we expect increasing numbers of users to deploy ZFS. We > don't have boot support currently, but being able to set up /data as a > ZFS file system would be great. Today, people have to do an initial > install on, say, a small boot partition and then relabel/deal with the > rest of the disk, boot a live CD, or worse, discover they have to > repartition, which really fails to expose some of the excellent > ease-of-use, auto-configuration, etc, features that we otherwise have in > this area. i suspect many folk installing zfs want a gmirrored boot partition, as i do. and setting zfs up is trivial next to doing a gmirrored boot on two small partitions on the two drives. but with the varied file system options and strategies we have, ufs, zfs, gmirror, crypted, ... i suspect that trying to get sysinstall to support us all is a path to having sysinstall need a dvd as opposed to a cd-rom. randy