From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 13:35:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B99716A4CE; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:35:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A4DF43D39; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:35:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eta@lclark.edu) Received: from [192.168.0.103] (c-24-21-18-195.client.comcast.net[24.21.18.195]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <200401262135250120028rjse>; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 21:35:27 +0000 From: Eric Anholt To: Alexander Leidinger In-Reply-To: <20040126114327.3621078f@Magellan.Leidinger.net> References: <200401251014.i0PAE8G2004435@repoman.freebsd.org> <20040125125547.56311882@Magellan.Leidinger.net> <1075059166.703.37.camel@leguin> <20040126114327.3621078f@Magellan.Leidinger.net> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1075153082.1646.2.camel@leguin> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:38:02 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: cvs-ports@freebsd.org cc: x11@freebsd.org cc: cvs-all@freebsd.org cc: ports-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/x11 Makefile ports/x11/libXpm Makefile distinfo pkg-descr pkg-plist X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 21:35:30 -0000 On Mon, 2004-01-26 at 02:43, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 11:32:46 -0800 > Eric Anholt wrote: > > > Yes, I really intend to replace XFree86's libraries with freedesktop.org > > libraries where there's an fd.o version available. > > [good reasons why this will happen] > > > This is not a fork of XFree86. Notably, we (as in fd.o) don't have any > > fork of the XFree86 X Server*. This is just the libraries. There is an > > X Server at freedesktop.org, which shares the internal X Server parts > > but has different DDXs, along with the new extensions (fixes, damage, > > and composite). I've been working off and on on porting that server, > > but I don't think I'll be able to finish it before I leave. Xouvert is > > a dead project (if you can say it was ever alive to begin with) that no > > established X hackers worked on. > > > > * This actually may change. There's been talk, and one person hacking > > on, importing the XFree86 DDX into the X Server tree and fixing it to > > work with Composite. I have serious doubts myself about the viability > > of trying to do minor fixes to XAA instead of axing it and starting from > > scratch, given its major limitations in the presence of Composite and > > increased use of Render, which is why I've been spending so much time on > > the kdrive server. > > So you (fd.o) take the libs from XFree86 and just repack them with the > autotools? By reading fd.o (http://pdx.freedesktop.org/Software/X11) it > seems you want to improve them independently from XFree86. I don't think > this is bad, but IMHO it's a fork then. Yes, this is a fork of the libs, and improvements are being made on some of them (libX11 in particular with XCB). And actually, in the cases of several of them it's returning maintainership of the libs to the authors of those libs. When I said it's not a fork of XFree86 I meant that it is not a fork of the server, which is the important thing that XFree86 produces. -- Eric Anholt eta@lclark.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/ anholt@FreeBSD.org