From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 29 04:27:12 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C40AE116D for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 04:27:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B7551C4F for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 04:27:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-32-102.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.32.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25DED24CC6; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 06:27:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u2T4R1kG002205; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 06:27:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 06:27:01 +0200 From: Polytropon To: anonymous Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please already - forms acces restore normalcy for new people - broken Message-Id: <20160329062701.dc0e38bf.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <56F9E01C.1030307@cox.net> References: <56F9E01C.1030307@cox.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 04:27:12 -0000 On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 21:53:32 -0400, anonymous wrote: > why is it firefox 2.0, 5.0, now 20.0 cannot get onto freeBSD community > forums (whereas the same does access other sites ussing httpS) The older versions of Firefox (as well as of other web browsers or HTTP CLI clients) do not support current encryption and cert technology. > echo "GET http://forums.freebsd.org/index.html" | ./nc > forums.freebsd.org 80 > > > 301 Moved Permanently > >

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The document has moved href="https://forums.freebsd.org/index.html">here.

> > > i can't even trace down why because the web server is showing "." as the > altered location. Thos three lines are the key: > echo "GET http://forums.freebsd.org/index.html" | ./nc > 301 Moved Permanently > href="https://forums.freebsd.org/index.html">here.

As you can see, the new page is https (instead of http). The browser needs to support HTTPS in order to display the page. Therefore it is required to implement the "cipher suites" in use. > there is no help on freeBSD about forum access difficulty i can find There is. This topic has been discussed on this mailing list several times. Check the web archive for more information. > i have a box was just about to install freeBSD and wanted forum input on > which version Usually the most recent release (which is FreeBSD 10.2) will be fine, except of course you have valid reasons to run an older version. > i shouldn't have to be running (newest) BSD to participate in talking to > other BSD users This has nothing to do with the FreeBSD version, but with the web browser, no matter on which OS it is running. Additionally, using the currently supported version of FreeBSD is often suggested. But as I said, you might actually have a valid reason to use an older version - one that will be EOL soon, or even one that isn't supported anymore. However you should know what you're doing, as "EOL" and "not supported anymore" exactly means that there won't be support for certain aspects of the OS, which might be a problem. > OR there should be an "try these BSD forums" if BSD people have opted to > work only with pay site GIT and do not wish to extend forums to new users. FreeBSD uses SVN (Subversion) for managing source code. The code is freely available and not subject to a "pay site". > i tried Major Domo, but no one answers questions concerning forums by > email - or it gets lost in shuffle there are so many emails arriving. i > dont watn to pester the patch people they want new patches and no talk, > not webadmin hastles. Check out the various FreeBSD mailing lists. There is one that will fit your needs. If you aren't sure which list to address, ask the question as precise as possible on the general user questions mailing list. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ > anway: asked before a couple times. i KNOW other inet users are having > the same issues Properly configuring the web browser usually solves those problems. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...