From nobody Mon Aug 25 12:28:24 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4c9VSp2v29z65jVb for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2025 12:28:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R13" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4c9VSp28BHz4PtV; Mon, 25 Aug 2025 12:28:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1756124906; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=lL/DVkxep/zFqYv43GV1Alawo0vZyi/K+9YXISrGYdw=; b=FYvF+SzIxWkyT6RZTT7BBIu3OB7qJqNHj1PX8HehuXB0dEHLVh8k7Vup8L7c6hj7DohvmL IMe0LEkAV7xFA9nhtss7H80LxYISnL2AaSzx3WlVBoNgi9qBCa5NOJOA4FfTp0i/1+mGaj EHA9fEIotFxL/01UY0Vm2iLqKBXWxOTyG0yndUNh3tqP+3LdHhplchQqfODD/+L4VmAhKR nz+fLITBF30tQQ8dePrGwQJc5voTjTU9FQ68tHQ5lnjwBPMBsdnI9/M70Ivq8GqslpPYlv azx0vcQYxMtsAF+txCvsZ32X7Bby0Qa2r6waxGy7KmaRZDfGwXyIfFv6+w6gxQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1756124906; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=lL/DVkxep/zFqYv43GV1Alawo0vZyi/K+9YXISrGYdw=; b=Mjk1TdRBnSg3HOo7zpA7Gu0GPOpq0t2XPi5kJlrpEQVv7WVUblSy5tDE4z6ZmI3sqAFlwp AfD5qrCTwj7QH/j/PV7VvlchXV3rKtql0nod7XXmVx70g5v2cg8cBgVRq2i35ENNH52GwS ud0zVi93gx8J7/nYHN/7CDVRtXSaUhPmhbmf7gzRX+L50AtN27Eymk/ZNEokUAz7nul9A5 GHV0IlcKQSnRop7MWe6gx45tlb+xHi0zyd/N0XIpTGlMVVVAUi5oizQEJJGNJxI7/zDovf qzzhjRsDDi9GIzxCr+KpiGIpHfyDZuEJYUQ/5hvITlkh5GebB07graterbM9ug== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1756124906; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Udo514dugGRMTgyubuqjUIr2JO2ew+VMqr97MRlk7FZ5vRZ+PfVKbK3pSwQwfcpwv/jDAX GhiQVwwpT9hU8m7vyL9MXNpyhvzMhn+vEK1TpeNks9lYtkS+ZK1/0YYN940GKmUk4mSxkd re9efT/M9A1A0ZQU8gzTaPtZwpRK5K3SwvRLCJRT09+8xxyCjs2t7Q6rAJEqzx3fpZ2MVD Bp8B2B6B8sjwa90hvE+HyhAYkkWdaZcCrPKZCErvS9dGgHoQrmp7H4ZNHf2dXPwoURBGAi 9lzagaR98ORkGwnFVf+k+mkciu2hUY7VcFbxpEiEV9UQbs7I2uHw3HgAnGTLVg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from ltc.des.dev (88-177-82-251.subs.proxad.net [88.177.82.251]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: des) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4c9VSp0kCyz1S6y; Mon, 25 Aug 2025 12:28:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@freebsd.org) Received: by ltc.des.dev (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3B8713C12E; Mon, 25 Aug 2025 14:28:24 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: Graham Perrin Cc: freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org, re@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update and pkgbase In-Reply-To: (Graham Perrin's message of "Mon, 25 Aug 2025 12:56:54 +0100") References: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2025 14:28:24 +0200 Message-ID: <86tt1vvb4n.fsf@ltc.des.dev> List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Graham Perrin writes: > I assume that it will be absent from, or unusable with, 15.0-RELEASE. You assume wrong, and perhaps you should check who you're replying to... > Gut feeling: for a successor to freebsd-update, it will help to have a > distinctive name for the tool. Why would a tool that updates FreeBSD not be named freebsd-update? DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@FreeBSD.org