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Date:      Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:16:16 -0500 (EST)
From:      Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu>
To:        nakken@cs.umn.edu (Sigve Nakken)
Cc:        freebsd-config@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: partitioning NTFS
Message-ID:  <200311142116.hAELGHk16639@clunix.cl.msu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0311141428280.12373@oxygen> from "Sigve Nakken" at Nov 14, 2003 02:36:26 PM

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> Hey,
> 
> I have a Dell Inspiron Laptop running Windows2000 on an
> NTFS file system. I wish to install freeBSD on the same disk
> as I have Win200 installed, with a dual boot option. My questions are:
> 1) What program(s) can do the partitioning of my disk, which
> I need to do before installing freeBSD?

I have the best luck with Partition Magic from Power Quest.
It is about $60 or $70 from most places like Best Buy or Circuit
City, etc.   It is better at handling NTFS than the freeware stuff
I have seen - the freeware stuff basically doesn't handle NTFS.

It seems to work best to have the MS stuff first on the disk
and the FreeBSD slice[s] after .

Note that in FreeBSD land, what Microsloth calls 'partition' is
a slice.   Partitions are subdivisions of slices.  Up to 4, that
are numbered 1..4 area allowed.   So, you will have an NTFS slice 
for Winxxx and a FreeBSD slice for FreeBSD.

You will further partition the FreeBSD slice to make make units
for file systems.  The partitions will be named a..h.  So, for
example, if the disk is SCSI, your root would be addressed as
  /dev/da0s2a.  eg disk '0', slice '2', partition 'a'. 
You may know this already, but I have spent so much time explaining
this so often that I figured I might as well just get it over with.

> 2) Is it preferable to install from a CD-ROM, or will it
> suffice to download the latest release from the web?

If you with to support the project by buying a CD set, then do so.
The ISO image you download and burn on to a CD yourself is the
same as the CD you would buy - at least the first three are.  The
CD sets you buy have some more disks with the rest of the port
sources and whatever on them.

If can burn your own CDs and want to do that, download the mini-ISO
of the latest version - 4.9 and burn it on to a CD.  Note that the
ISO file is already an iso so you don't have to convert it to anything.
Just burn it on the CD.  There are lots of good instructions on
the FreeBSD site and in the handbook.

Then, boot the mini-ISO CD, answer all the appropriate quesitons,
make up a reasonable division of the FreeBSD site in to partitions
which is a=root, b=swap, e=tmp, f-may be /usr, g may be /var, h=home or
some filesystem to hold the bulk of everything you are doing.  I say 
may be on /usr and /var, because some people include them in the
big bulk file system with softlinks and some include /home in /usr
with softlinks, etc.   I put it all in /home myself.

Select everything you want to load/instrall - do include the ports, it 
is just the skeleton to run later installs, not the full source - and X
and then tell it to load from an ftp site.  Pick a good mirror site
for where you live - usually the main ftp site is really busy - and
let er rip.  It will work.  Fiddle around getting your Xwindows set up
and working for your screen, etc and you have a basic system.
Then have fun with sendmail, adding apache server, spam killers, whatever
your heart desires.

////jerry
> 
> thanks,
> sigve
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