From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 16:48:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F19B16A4CE for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:48:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.volant.org (gate.volant.org [207.111.218.246]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F7943FCB for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:48:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from patl+freebsd@volant.org) Received: from 64-144-229-193.client.dsl.net ([64.144.229.193] helo=[192.168.0.13]) by smtp.volant.org with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.22) id 1AQcEP-000DWr-Ql; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:48:06 -0800 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:48:04 -0800 From: Pat Lashley To: ticso@cicely.de, Scott Mitchell Message-ID: <304983520.1070239684@mccaffrey.phoenix.volant.org> In-Reply-To: <20031130223621.GI81181@cicely12.cicely.de> References: <20031122203032.B4A7C43FB1@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <1069535527.722.15.camel@klamath> <20031122235612.GC4757@angeldust.chaos> <3FC0FDFE.1080108@isi.edu><20031130223621.GI81181@cicely12.cicely.de> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.0 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Scan-Signature: ccec3068c2c34a412b04326b5f6d3453a40553ac X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Spam-Score-Int: -42 X-Spam-Report: -4.2/5.0 This mail has matched the spam-filter tests listed below. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for details about the specific tests reported. In general, the higher the number of total points, the more likely that it actually is spam. (The 'required' number of points listed below is the arbitrary number above which the message is normally considered spam.) Content analysis details: (-4.20 points total, 5 required)header IN_REP_TO (-0.4 points) Has a In-Reply-To header probability is 1 to 10% [score: 0.0780]quoted email text REPLY_WITH_QUOTES (0.0 points) Reply with quoted text AWL (2.0 points) AWL: Auto-whitelist adjustment cc: Thomas Repantis cc: Lars Eggert cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SPAM!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 00:48:28 -0000 --On Sunday, November 30, 2003 23:36:22 +0100 Bernd Walter wrote: > Thinking about this is woth nothing anyway. > I know for shure that spammers are already sniffing SMTP transfers to > gather addresses. Sounds like a good reason to enable TLS on all the SMTP servers under your control... Anonymous TLS won't stop a man-in-the-middle; but it will block plain snooping. And it's generally pretty easy to do. The more sites that implement it, the more secure the mail infrastructure is from random snooping. (Of course, to get anything approaching real security, the server and client need to check each other's certs. Which requires a certificate handling infrastructure...) -Pat