From owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org Tue Jul 25 14:05:36 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 286A5C7D24E for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2017 14:05:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.muenz@spam-fetish.org) Received: from mailout-02.maxonline.de (mailout-02.maxonline.de [81.24.66.23]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D37427C9E6 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2017 14:05:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.muenz@spam-fetish.org) Received: from web03-01.max-it.de (web03-01.max-it.de [81.24.64.215]) by mailout-02.maxonline.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6A914A; Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:05:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by web03-01.max-it.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DA4F28B849; Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:05:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at web03-01.max-it.de Received: from web03-01.max-it.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (web03-01.max-it.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id C4EwptdRPskt; Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:05:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [81.24.66.132] (unknown [81.24.66.132]) (Authenticated sender: m.muenz@spam-fetish.org) by web03-01.max-it.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 576D928B847; Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:05:33 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: NAT before IPSEC - reply packets stuck at enc0 To: "Andrey V. Elsukov" , freebsd-net@freebsd.org References: <459d59f7-2895-8aed-d547-be46a0fbb918@spam-fetish.org> <1c0de616-91ff-a6f9-d946-f098bc1a709f@spam-fetish.org> <911903d1-f353-d5d6-d400-d86150f88136@yandex.ru> <2d607e1a-a2c0-0f85-1530-c478962a76cd@spam-fetish.org> <3344e189-cdf0-a2c9-3a2a-645460866f2d@yandex.ru> <1279753e-9ad1-2c02-304e-5001e2bbc82f@spam-fetish.org> <15e6eb38-ef0c-7bfd-5f2c-d2acc8ea1af4@yandex.ru> <63e80fcf-915e-2dd5-d8c9-1904c8261c6f@yandex.ru> <1c91cd8f-105d-e886-3126-67505c6c3900@spam-fetish.org> <1e889acf-49d1-b70f-7097-82e6e4dfabb6@spam-fetish.org> <454ed1b7-a80f-b096-cfa1-3c32d1e60f7d@yandex.ru> <5dfdfbb3-1046-5abe-b23a-b62c215b5d08@yandex.ru> <860b48aa-b99e-7b71-3724-587ee0a7fe80@spam-fetish.org> <1b831b84-1d3f-38cb-acee-07a339315417@yandex.ru> From: "Muenz, Michael" Message-ID: <0bbf5bb9-8089-f9ce-3b1d-e9bcbdbc6c76@spam-fetish.org> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:06:37 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1b831b84-1d3f-38cb-acee-07a339315417@yandex.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 14:05:36 -0000 Am 25.07.2017 um 15:04 schrieb Andrey V. Elsukov: > On 25.07.2017 15:17, Muenz, Michael wrote: >>>> * 10.26.2.N sends ICMP request to 10.24.66.25 >>>> >>>> * 10.26.1.1 handles it by tunnel mode IPsec security policy, >>>> something like: >>>> spdadd -4 10.26.2.0/24 10.24.66.0/24 any -P out ipsec \ >>>> esp/tunnel/213.244.192.191-81.24.74.3/require; >>>> * IPsec code does lookup for IPsec SA and uses something like: >>>> add 213.244.192.191 81.24.74.3 esp 0x2478d746 -m tunnel -E ...; >>> Thanks for the detailed explaination! I only know the insights with >>> Linux, but what I try to achieve is, not to build a SA fpr 10.26.2.0 >>> to 10.24.66.0. >>> So IMHO the address rewriting from 10.26.2 to 10.26.1 should be done >>> before getting to the IPSEC process. >>> In Linux a packet not matching a SA would simply be dropped by kernel >>> or throw a "NO PROPOSAL CHOSEN" since there's no known SA for >>> 10.26.2.0 to 10.24.66.0. > As I said already, the NAT thinks that both packets are inbound and does > translation for source address each time. You need to do translation for > both directions on enc0 interface like I described, or you need to > somehow hack/modify ipfw_nat. > > You do not need to create SA for 10.26.2.0->10.24.66.0, you only need > create security policy, that will "route" such packets into the IPsec > tunnel. The translation will be done inside IPsec before IP > encapsulation and encryption. Since you are using tunnel mode IPsec, > replies will be returned to your external IP address, and this SA is > exists already. After decryption and IP decapsulation the destination > address of packet will be translated back to 10.26.2.N on if_enc(4). Can I use this spdadd command also when using strongswan? (Please excuse stupid questions) > >> 14:02:53.960436 (authentic,confidential): SPI 0xdeda7104: IP (tos 0x0, >> ttl 63, id 6287, offset 0, flags [none], proto ICMP (1), length 28, bad >> cksum b07 (->c07)!) >> 10.26.1.1 > 10.24.66.25: ICMP echo request, id 38600, seq 0, length 8 > ^^^ - this address must be 10.26.2.N, and it will be > translated on "out xmit enc0". > >> 14:02:53.960460 (authentic,confidential): SPI 0xdeda7104: IP (tos 0x0, >> ttl 64, id 32607, offset 0, flags [none], proto IPIP (4), length 48, bad >> cksum 0 (->c99b)!) >> 213.244.192.191 > 81.24.74.3: IP (tos 0x0, ttl 63, id 6287, offset >> 0, flags [none], proto ICMP (1), length 28) >> 10.26.1.1 > 10.24.66.25: ICMP echo request, id 38600, seq 0, length 8 > ^^^ - and here it will become 10.26.1.1 after translation. > >> 14:02:53.968634 (authentic,confidential): SPI 0xcdea472d: IP (tos 0x0, >> ttl 58, id 18352, offset 0, flags [none], proto IPIP (4), length 48) >> 81.24.74.3 > 213.244.192.191: IP (tos 0x0, ttl 63, id 38328, offset >> 0, flags [none], proto ICMP (1), length 28) >> 10.24.66.25 > 10.26.1.1: ICMP echo reply, id 38600, seq 0, length 8 > ^^^ - here your gateway receives the reply and > will do IP decapsulaton. > >> 14:02:53.968653 (authentic,confidential): SPI 0xcdea472d: IP (tos 0x0, >> ttl 63, id 38328, offset 0, flags [none], proto ICMP (1), length 28) >> 10.26.1.1 > 10.26.1.1: ICMP echo reply, id 44919, seq 0, length 8 > ^^^ - here packet will be translated back on "in recv enc0" and > will have the following addresses: 10.24.66.25 > 10.26.2.N > >> So the most specific nat rule in order to get the packet into enc0 is: >> >> ipfw nat 1 config ip 10.26.1.1 log reverse >> ipfw add 179 nat 1 log all from 10.26.2.0/24 to 10.24.66.0/24 in recv >> vtnet1 >> ipfw add 179 nat 1 log all from 10.24.66.0/24 to 10.26.1.1 in recv enc0 > ipfw nat 1 config ip 10.26.1.1 log > ipfw add 179 nat 1 all from 10.26.2.0/24 to 10.24.66.0/24 out xmit enc0 > ipfw add 179 nat 1 all from 10.24.66.0/24 to 10.26.1.1 in recv enc0 > Ok so your 3 nat commands will only match when there's a new spd like above right? Since there's nothing on enc0 without it. Thanks Michael