From owner-freebsd-current Wed Sep 30 16:40:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26425 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 16:40:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (spinner.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26374 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 16:39:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spinner.netplex.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/Spinner) with ESMTP id HAA15192; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:34:03 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@spinner.netplex.com.au) Message-Id: <199809302334.HAA15192@spinner.netplex.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Garrett Wollman cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , Chuck Robey , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: comment about verbose booting In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 30 Sep 1998 16:30:18 -0400." <199809302030.QAA17624@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 07:34:03 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > > > If your're asking me, the identification of the VGA chips is > > something which should be killed, it doesn't belong in the kernel. > > You can do that from userland, there is no need to stuff potentially > > unlimited number of ascii-strings into the kernel, in particular > > considering that it doesn't use them after having printed one of > > them at boot. > > But we'll have ELF kernels soon enough, so theoretically we could put > all of that stuff in its own section and then release the memory after > boot. > > Isn't that what Terry is always flaming about? > > -GAWollman Don't joke... It's not all that difficult - the main problem is one of fragmentation and the memory impact if we keep skipping page boundaries to avoid bloating the kernel image (or .o or .so). Trynig to reclaim a page in the middle of chunks of in-use data isn't fun. One possibility is if it ends up in a plaintext file in /boot somewhere as part of a control mechanism for assigning a driver.o file to a pci or pnp device id or a mapping between a probe module and a driver itself. Yes, /boot could work on a NFS mount for diskless support or on a dos or cdrom partition. Cheers, -Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message