From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Apr 14 7:35:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from pop02.globecomm.net (pop02.globecomm.net [206.253.129.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C34157A7 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:35:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zen@buddhist.com) Received: from WhizKid (r45.bfm.org [208.18.213.141]) by pop02.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id KAA03538 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:34:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990414093232.00935870@mail.bfm.org> X-Sender: stanislav@mail.bfm.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:32:32 -0500 To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG From: "G. Adam Stanislav" Subject: Re: Not again... In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 09:44 14-04-1999 +0200, Marius Bendiksen wrote: >> Oh, for the love of Mike, please let this bloody thread die. > >*nod* I was going to second that, but now I just have to third it. :-) I started using FreeBSD sometime in November, and PR had nothing to do with it. I simply got it because the company that hosts my web site (pair Networks) uses it, and I wanted to be able to develop and test my CGI programs at home without having to telnet to pair all the time. Meanwhile, I am finding myself using FreeBSD more and more, not because of PR but because I like it. As for Jordan, I am amazed that he typically finds the time to respond to so many messages on all the lists. About a decade ago, I used to head a worldwide programming project (Opus, the Fidonet BBS), and it was very hard to try to reply to all the messages directed at me, let alone answer questions posted in echos (the Fidonet name for mailing lists). The members of the Opus team were strong individuals, and we sometimes disagreed (not always, mind you), but we always resolved our disagreements among ourselves. Members of the FreeBSD team are no doubt strong individuals, too. Otherwise they couldn't have possibly done so good a job. So, disagreements and clashes are inevitable. But, IMHO, they are best kept inside the team: That's where they started, that's where they should be resolved. By the way, having headed a major free programming project of worldwide magnitude was an exhausting experience, even though I was relatively young (I was in my late thirties). It led to total burnout. After that, I just resigned, and swore to myself I'd never work on free software again. I started releasing free software again now that I have FreeBSD, but not as a member of a team. I am sure Jordan is not perfect (I know I'm not), but being the head of a team that does all of its work for free is a major headache, and it is nice to see there are still people willing to do that. There is positively no reason to make his work even harder. So, Jordan, all I've got to say to you is: Hang in there, kid! Adam --- Want to design your own web counter? Get GCL 2.10 from http://www.whizkidtech.net/gcl/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message