From owner-freebsd-security Thu Jun 3 9:45:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (wandering-wizard.cybercity.dk [212.242.41.238]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31BF414E09 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 09:45:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA03614; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 18:44:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Christopher Petrilli Cc: "Jeroen C. van Gelderen" , Laurence Berland , security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Not freebsd related...yet In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 03 Jun 1999 10:18:22 EDT." <19990603101822.B21535@amber.org> Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 18:44:55 +0200 Message-ID: <3612.928428295@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can we please move this thread to somewhere else than a freebsd mailing list, THANKYOU! Poul-Henning In message <19990603101822.B21535@amber.org>, Christopher Petrilli writes: >As has always been expressed to me: > >"Never trust anyone to design a cipher who hasn't spent their life >breaking them." > >What that means is that until you understand what can go WRONG in design >(FEAL is a good example of great theory, lousy crypto), there's no way >you can even begin to sketch out ideas for a viable crypto algorithm. >And if you're not going to write a viable one, why bother? > >Something more interesting in the crypto world would be dealing with one >of the protocols for applying crypto, such as coin flipping, the >proverbial poker game, or anonymous cash... Zero Knowledge Proofs might >also be interesting... for example, a login system based on ZKP. > >Chris >-- >| Christopher Petrilli ``Television is bubble-gum for >| petrilli@amber.org the mind.''-Frank Lloyd Wright > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message > -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message