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Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2021 01:20:32 +0300 References: <0070fa8d-1e9c-89c7-f0a8-40aace3030d8@quip.cz> To: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List In-Reply-To: <0070fa8d-1e9c-89c7-f0a8-40aace3030d8@quip.cz> Message-Id: <3A96BE67-4E40-4F11-BD9F-3C27C9133CF4@cretaforce.gr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.60.0.2.21) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FD7XN6jL0z4Z5P X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cretaforce.gr header.s=cretaforce header.b=UrybSs41; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of chris@cretaforce.gr designates 195.201.253.147 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=chris@cretaforce.gr X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.10 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:195.201.253.147]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cretaforce.gr:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[195.201.253.147:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:195.201.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[195.201.253.147:from]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cretaforce.gr:s=cretaforce]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[chris]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-stable@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cretaforce.gr]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[195.201.253.147:from:127.0.2.255]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[cretaforce.gr:dkim]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-stable] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2021 22:20:38 -0000 > On 5 Apr 2021, at 00:22, Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> wrote: >=20 > On 03/04/2021 22:39, Ed Maste wrote: >> I propose deprecating the ftpd currently included in the base system >> before FreeBSD 14, and opened review D26447 >> (https://reviews.freebsd.org/D26447) to add a notice to the man page. >> I had originally planned to try to do this before 13.0, but it = dropped >> off my list. FTP is not nearly as relevant now as it once was, and it >> had a security vulnerability that secteam had to address. >> I'm happy to make a port for it if anyone needs it. Comments? >=20 > I am on FreeBSD for more than 20 years, running FTP service on almost = all our servers but it never was ftpd from base. I saw other comments = against removing it but from my point of view ftpd in base is useless = for me. > And I don't see much cases where FTP service is needed before any = other package / port can be installed. >=20 > As always there will be at least two groups of users one for, one = against. >=20 > Kind regards > Miroslav Lachman I use FTP service too but pure-ftpd. Also the only reason sometimes I use telnet is to check if SSH is open: = "telnet server.example.com 22" but I can = use "nc server.example.com 22"=