From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jan 27 10:53:28 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2DE37B401 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:53:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from analog.databits.net (analog.databits.net [198.78.65.155]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0EEF943EB2 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:53:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from petef@analog.databits.net) Received: (qmail 90449 invoked by uid 1000); 27 Jan 2003 18:49:31 -0000 Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:49:31 -0600 From: Pete Fritchman To: "Pedro F. Giffuni" Cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: comments/suggestions on the ports system Message-ID: <20030127184931.GA82213@absolutbsd.org> References: <20030127165720.29781.qmail@web13405.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030127165720.29781.qmail@web13405.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ++ 27/01/03 17:57 +0100 - Pedro F. Giffuni: | 1) I did a DOS installation and found that my system | wanted to install some packages, but I didn't know | which so I had to reboot and copy all I could to the | HD. XFree86 was of course the first but it also needed | imake so it soon became a mess, not to mention the HD | memory requirements. Not quite sure what you mean here. | 2) I like it that we now install XFree86 from the | package, but unfortunately the package is not fully | integrated and configuring it causes pain (the | configure utility expects to write /etc/X11/XF86Config | or /usr/X11/etc/XF86Config and these directories don't | exist). I concluded the best solution for this would | be to set X11BASE=/usr/X11/ by default in the ports | tree: changing all the ocurrences of this to | /usr/X11R6 would be a nonsense and besides the ports | tree should be perfectly prepared for this type of | change. According to /etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist, /etc/X11 is there by default (and that's the behavior I have noticed). | 3) The ports tree has grown too much and it's not | practical to download all the tree to submit just one | or two ports. I propose that it is divided in several | packages: | ports-base | ports-devel | ports-math | ports-cad | etc... and a ports metapackage. This would not be a | complete solution, but combined with cvsweb it would | make the ports system usable again (for me). CVSup is split up like that already; see /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile for details. | 4) KDE, GNOME and the related Qt and GTK apps have | grown a lot should be in a different CD, giving the | priority in the first CD for console applications. | mtools should always be in the first CD. I don't think the focus needs to be shifted to "console" or "X" applications one way or the other, just the most popular ones. I would guess a large majority of our desktop users find it really convenient to have their preferred desktop environment on the first CD. --pete To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message