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Date:      Fri, 30 Nov 2001 19:35:22 -0500
From:      John Capo <jc@irbs.com>
To:        Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
Cc:        Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>, Alexander Haderer <alexander.haderer@charite.de>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Found the problem, w/patch (was Re: FreeBSD performing worse than Linux?)
Message-ID:  <20011130193522.A36097@exuma.irbs.com>
In-Reply-To: <200111302200.fAUM0hD27448@apollo.backplane.com>; from dillon@apollo.backplane.com on Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 02:00:43PM -0800
References:  <20011128153817.T61580@monorchid.lemis.com> <15364.38174.938500.946169@caddis.yogotech.com> <20011128104629.A43642@walton.maths.tcd.ie> <5.1.0.14.1.20011130181236.00a80160@postamt1.charite.de> <200111302047.fAUKlT811090@apollo.backplane.com> <200111302130.fAULUU324648@apollo.backplane.com> <15367.64883.390696.863120@caddis.yogotech.com> <200111302200.fAUM0hD27448@apollo.backplane.com>

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Quoting Matthew Dillon (dillon@apollo.backplane.com):
> 
>     The question here is... is it actually packet loss that is creating
>     this issue for you and John, or is it something else?  The only way
>     to tell for sure is to run tcpdump on BOTH the client and server
>     and then observe whether packet loss is occuring by comparing the dumps.
> 

Packet loss is the problem for sure. I am dumping on the server and
client side.
   
    http://www.irbs.net/server-dump.html
    http://www.irbs.net/client-dump.html

In 60Ms the server pushed out about 200 segments.  My test writes
1 byte at a time on an existing ssh conection so the payload per
segment is small, 48 bytes.  (48 + IP + TCP) * 200 is around 17KB
in 60Ms which probably overflowed the frame switch queue.  The
client is on a fractional T1, the server is on a 10Mb -> OC3
connection 1200 network miles away.

Jonathan Lemon pointed out in the TCP Anomalies thread that slow
start seems to be broken.

John Capo


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