From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Sep 6 17:16:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A5737B400 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 17:16:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA5543E75 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 17:16:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b137.otenet.gr [212.205.244.145]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id g870Fh7f004047; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 03:16:02 +0300 (EEST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (hades [127.0.0.1]) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g870Facf016006; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 03:15:36 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g870FF2X015997; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 03:15:16 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 03:15:15 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Neal E. Westfall" Cc: chat@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? Message-ID: <20020907001514.GA15779@hades.hell.gr> References: <20020906155919.A6312@FreeBSD.org> <20020906092136.L94577-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020906092136.L94577-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan> X-PGP-Fingerprint: C1EB 0653 DB8B A557 3829 00F9 D60F 941A 3186 03B6 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-09-06 10:02 +0000, Neal E. Westfall wrote: > The reason not all of the laws written in Leviticus are any longer > applicable is that they had a theological purpose. That's so convenient, isn't it? > What is *your* rationale for opposing slavery? I'll tell you mine. > I am grateful to God for having mercy on me as a sinner. As such, I > seek to glorify God by emulating His compassion that He had on me. Why do you need to have `God', or anything else that can take its place in your systems of beliefs, to set an example? Can't you, as an individual, a human being respect and value others without someone showing you ``the way''? > Do you suppose that God is *obligated* to have mercy on everyone? Yes. > An obligation implies justice, not mercy. Of course, one of the attributes given to gods and goddesses in most of the religions of the world (a few notable exceptions do exist, but they are usually accused of anthropomorphism), is their inherent tendency to be `just, and righteous to all'. Or, is a god or goddess just and righteous only when it suits him/her, to ask for more sacrifices/belief/whatever? Of course, I have to shoot myself now for breaking my promise NOT to take part in this thread again :) - Giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message