From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 31 01:33:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE3116A420; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 01:33:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from postal1.es.net (postal1.es.net [198.128.3.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50CF43D45; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 01:33:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal1.es.net (Postal Node 1) with ESMTP (SSL) id IBA74465; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:33:52 -0800 Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 0EAE345064; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:33:53 -0800 (PST) To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:33:35 +1030." <20060131010335.GQ91655@wantadilla.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:33:53 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20060131013353.0EAE345064@ptavv.es.net> Cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org, Yar Tikhiy , cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, Gleb Smirnoff , Robert Watson , cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, Matteo Riondato Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc/defaults periodic.conf X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 01:33:56 -0000 > Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:33:35 +1030 > From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey > Sender: owner-cvs-all@freebsd.org > > > --qCGCnlPZoKZX9mDP > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > > On Tuesday, 31 January 2006 at 3:57:11 +0300, Yar Tikhiy wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 11:58:19PM +0000, Robert Watson wrote: > >> On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > >>> On Monday, 30 January 2006 at 15:35:25 +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > >>>> M> Make df output in periodic mail human readable > >>>> > >>>> Thanks! > >>> > >>> *sigh* > >>> > >>> Not everybody is human. > >> > >> My daily script parsers certainly aren't. I quite like being able to pull > >> in a mailbox of old daily output and plot disk space use over time. The > >> problem with df -h is that as the numbers get bigger, the granularity > >> becomes very, very coarse. I.e., you can only see changes at 1GB > >> granularity for big disks, so you can't actually usefully track in any > >> detail daily usage rates. > > > > I think that if the war of computers against humans ever begins, > > it will break out from an event like this commit. And then some > > geek folks will certainly come down on the side of computers. The > > granularity of "df -h" is too coarse even to, ahem, some readers > > of the list, keep alone the scripts. Quite naturally, they dread > > being treated as inadequately human some day soon. > > > > To help keep peace, let's support the campaign against denying > > computers their right to get complete and uncensored information > > in plain text or, under very special conditions, XML :-) > > It's actually heartening to see so many people agreeing with me on > this one; I wasn't expecting it. > > We should recognize that neither way is a solution. The solution > would be to make this kind of thing easily configurable. That would > mean something like a knob DFFLAGS in /etc/defaults/rc.conf. I'd > argue (of course) for it to be -k by default (though I'd personally > change it to -m).