From owner-freebsd-chat Tue May 14 23:53:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA29816 for chat-outgoing; Tue, 14 May 1996 23:53:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA29795 for ; Tue, 14 May 1996 23:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.7.5/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with SMTP id XAA23958 for ; Tue, 14 May 1996 23:53:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uJaOo-000QYhC; Wed, 15 May 96 08:49 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id IAA06695; Wed, 15 May 1996 08:46:52 +0200 Message-Id: <199605150646.IAA06695@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: UNIX System To: edd@aic.net Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 08:46:52 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Chat) In-Reply-To: <199605130942.NAA09869@aic.net> from "edd@aic.net" at May 13, 96 01:42:16 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk edd@aic.net writes: > >>>> still wondering, however, whether it may not be called "Berkeley >>>> UNIX". > > I think there are no such thing as "Berkeley UNIX". If you refer to > BSD, you have to write BSD (and indicate release), > not UNIX. Because "UNIX" originally referred > to System V, again, IMHO. There are at least two points here: 1. My question wasn't "is there any such thing as Berkeley UNIX", but whether it could be used as a trademark independently of UNIX. 2. Berkeley UNIX (which, as other correspondents have observed, does have a precedent) predates System V by quite some time. According to the original daemon book, System V was first announced/released in 1983. 1BSD was released in 1977. Greg