From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 6 13:26:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4A616A4A7; Wed, 6 Dec 2006 13:26:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1BA643CA2; Wed, 6 Dec 2006 13:25:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.4) with SMTP id AAA09917; Thu, 7 Dec 2006 00:26:20 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 00:26:19 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: "Marc G. Fournier" In-Reply-To: <20061205171649.1151616A57C@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 13:26:25 -0000 On Tue, 5 Dec 2006, 09:50:20 -0400 "Marc G. Fournier" wrote: > - --On Wednesday, December 06, 2006 00:31:49 +1100 Ian Smith > wrote: > > > On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 "Marc G. Fournier" wrote: > > > > [..] > > > > > report_devices sends the output of pciconf -l | grep -v none (active > > devices) > > > > Marc, I've wondered for a while why you're excluding 'none' devices, eg > > on my Compaq Armada 1500c (recent 5.5-STABLE) 'pciconf -lv' includes > > > > none0@pci0:8:0: class=0x030000 card=0xb1010e11 chip=0x00c0102c rev=0x64 > > hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Asiliant (Chips And Technologies)' > > device = '69000 AGP/PCI Flat Panel/CRT VGA Accelerator' > > class = display > > subclass = VGA > > > > which is not exactly an inactive device here? > > 'k, my question back at you is why is there no driver associated with it? > Shouldn't there be ... ? It's a very good question :) but not one to which I know the answer. dmesg, since 5.4-RELEASE through 5.5-STABLE reports: pci0: at device 8.0 (no driver attached) I couldn't find a pciconf saved from those days, but on 4.5-RELEASE dmesg always reported it as: pci0: at 8.0 with no difference in functionality. Xorg recognises it fine either way, as does VESA (which now only reports itself on a verbose dmesg) > But, that said ... I've removed the none driver, since all it will do i make > the list longer, but it doesn't hurt anything ... I notice tonight that all of the 'none' devices reported there all seem also to be display adapters. On my Thinkpad T23 (not yet reporting) I see the pciconf 'none' devices are an Intel 82801CA/CAM SMBus Controller and a Lucent LT Winmodem (shrug?) > > Perhaps they'd be more useful summarised by OS, or at least prefaced > > with 'f' or 'o', 'n', 'd' or something else indicative? Just an idea .. > > Click on the FreeBSD icon, and you'll get FreeBSD specific stats ... but, good > point about the front page ones, will look at adding a label for there ... Ah yes, and I see you're still working on things now. Good stuff. Ahem, could it be someone from (this time) Australia is gaming the system? We've gone up from 425 a little earlier to (just now) 555 FreeBSD systems, and while we're never sorry to be beating the Yanks, especially at their own game, I doubt that it's fair dinkum, mate :) Cheers, Ian