From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 14 17:26:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA28511 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:26:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA28501 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 00:26:28 GMT (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00723; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:56:25 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id JAA06234; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:56:25 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980415095625.K1870@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:56:25 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: rotel@indigo.ie, Sean Harding Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Lost root shell References: <199804142056.VAA01012@indigo.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199804142056.VAA01012@indigo.ie>; from Niall Smart on Tue, Apr 14, 1998 at 09:56:19PM +0000 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 14 April 1998 at 21:56:19 +0000, Niall Smart wrote: > On Apr 14, 10:30am, Greg Lehey wrote: >> Subject: Re: Lost root shell >> On Mon, 13 April 1998 at 16:38:46 +0000, Niall Smart wrote: >>> I don't care how important the problem is for you, whether root's >>> shell is missing, the hard disk is on fire, or the president can't >>> send email -- if you expect me to read the list to answer questions, >>> I expect you to read the list for replies -- no exceptions. >> >> The "official" standpoint is different. We do want people to be able >> to send messages to the list without be subscribed. That's why I >> recommend answering to the sender as well as to the list. > > Well, I don't agree with this standpoint, but I'll agree to disagree :) > I just don't respond to questions asked by someone who is either > too stupid or disrespectful to take into consideration that I'm > doing him a favour by answering. (And no, this isn't some fundamental > need for need in my pscyhe, its just an expectation of common courtesy) I don't have a problem with not answering stupid or disrespectful questions. I do it all the time myself. But that wasn't the issue. > There are other sound reasons for keeping the discussions on the list, > such as keeping the Q&A's archived. Sure. The guidelines say "reply to the originator and the list". That covers both bases. It's a pity we don't have a way to stop the originator from getting the reply twice (like I got this message), but I don't consider that to be too serious. >> You might benefit by reading http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. I >> send it out every Friday, so you should already have seen it. > > Heh, whats the point of sending this to the list if you don't expect > those asking questions to be subscribed? Well, I do expect the people who answer to be subscribed :-) > This is the first list I've seen that regularly posts guidelines for > the people *answering* the questions. Do you consider that good or bad? Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message