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Date:      Thu, 05 Nov 1998 00:08:53 -0500
From:      "Steve Friedrich" <SteveFriedrich@Hot-Shot.com>
To:        "Rick Hamell" <hamellr@dsinw.com>
Cc:        "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: RFC 822 misconceptions
Message-ID:  <199811050510.AAA15444@laker.net>

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On Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:40:20 -0800 (), Rick Hamell wrote:

>> Internet users /like/ HTML-formatted messages: not because it's HTML
>> (since the overwhelming majority of Internet users don't even know what
>> the hell HTML means), but because it lets them do really cool things like
>> changing fonts and using colors.
>
>	Which to me personally... is annoying as hell! E-mail is email. I
>don't need to see for instance this message highlighted in green for your
>parts, and red in mine. It makes no real sense! I don't need to have a
>dancing baby in my e-mail, with a pretty little background.  

Well, my grandparents couldn't understand why my mom's generation liked
Elvis the Pelvis so much.  Unfortunately, our world is largely driven
by fad.  You can stick to your guns all you like.  But the population
that you can exchange email with will dwindle over time.  Sure, I know
people younger than me that appreciate Mozart, but not many.


>> place this issue among the great moral debates, I have no problem in
>> deferring to the non-hacker majority.  I don't feel threatened by an open
>> standard.
>
>	Ok, perhaps my personal feelings are hurt by the 'make it so every
>idiot with a TV can surf the net while watching Rambo II' attitude 'we'
>seem to have now. I don't feel threatened by an open standard either. I
>feel threatened by the 'make it easy' crowd. Which is predominantly
>Microsoft, no matter how you argue it. IF, there were an open standard in
>E-mail that let me bold type face and change text, AND could be used on
>multiple computers/operating systems without... then I might use it,
>especially if it was wide spread enough that everyone else could too. 
>	I'm going to do some research on this "text/enriched" you talk
>about, as it's honestly the first time I've heard of such thing. (Though I
>suppose if I'd thought about it.... :)
>	*sigh* Anyways, sorry for one and all to waste bandwidth on such a
>stupid argument. But... my opinions are my opinions, and I'll still bounce
>HTML formated E-mail back to you with a polite request to turn it off so
>that I can read it. :)

Microsuk has been so successful for a few basic reasons:
1. They violated every anti-trust law on the books.
2. They focused on *eye-candy* instead of stability
3. The world is full of *appliance* people that can barely get cash out
of an ATM

HTML mail is NOT the exclusive domain of Microsuk.  In fact, any
*standard* they create, we could wrestle away from THEM.  Wouldn't THAT
be a switch.  

BTW, I turned off HTML formatting OFF on my PMMail98 a few months ago,
in deference to Greg.  And I usually let it wrap on send, which isn't a
problem when I compose mail, but probably is when I quote others.

I just wish the unix community would recognize that MOST normal people
(as opposed to us computer literate) will love HTML formatted mail, and
embrace it and don't let Microsuk define where it goes.
Unix systems measure "uptime" in years, Winblows measures it in minutes.



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