From owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org Mon Aug 14 15:55:32 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E4C3DD2878; Mon, 14 Aug 2017 15:55:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marquis@roble.com) Received: from mx5.roble.com (mx5.roble.com [209.237.23.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx5.roble.com", Issuer "mx5.roble.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D2053A89; Mon, 14 Aug 2017 15:55:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marquis@roble.com) Received: from roble.com (roble.com [209.237.23.50]) by mx5.roble.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02ED23E5F9; Mon, 14 Aug 2017 08:55:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 08:55:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Marquis To: Remko Lodder cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org, freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg audit false negatives In-Reply-To: <36CDFE51-3E9A-42EA-8182-2972CE519DDC@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <0F48B4BB-BB2C-479D-9F43-006D73C1E218@FreeBSD.org> <36CDFE51-3E9A-42EA-8182-2972CE519DDC@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 15:55:32 -0000 >> That leaves just unpackaged base as FreeBSD's remaining audit weakness. > > Hi, I am happy that I can reduce your worry factor a bit ;-) > > Can you share what the audit weakness is? freebsd-update cron checks > whether or not an update is available and then emails you. If you run > -RELEASE, then that means that either an EN or SA had been released.. Can you run freebsd-update on a -RELEASE system installed and maintained with buildworld/buildkernel/installkernel/installworld? Though it's been more than a year since the last time I tested freebsd-update, on Virtualbox VMs, it resulted in too many bricked systems to rely on. That may have changed but it would still be better to build a packaged base or have reproduceable builds as lighter-weight solutions to the base audit issue. Roger