From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 19 20:20:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.chartermi.net (060upc075.chartermi.net [24.213.60.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A3037B4EC for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from danrc ([24.247.68.118]) by mail.chartermi.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-70727U39742L26062S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:19:56 -0500 Message-ID: <009301c09af4$61b28100$0101a8c0@fear.wrath.net> From: "Brian" To: References: <20010219184709.A68789@wjv.com> <003901c09ae7$5bd236c0$6a06fea9@jmsws> Subject: Re: Redundancy... Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:19:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Since we're into recommending people to do business with I'll throw one out there as well. http://www.tera-byte.com/. They're the cheapest bang for your buck, and I've had good luck dealing with them. I usually have a response time of a couple of hours, and that's just for maintenance. I'd imagine they'd be like flies on shit if something serious happened. One problem: they sit in Canada. -brian@wrath.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Slivko" To: ; Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 9:46 PM Subject: Re: Redundancy... > Guys, > > Another ISP that is worth looking into is CyberXpress. They have 3 T1's, all > multihomed as well as all the backup, both data and power that you'll ever > need. It'll run you about $250 for half a rack of space, enough to fit 5 > machines or $500 for a full rack, which is enough to fit 10 machines of a > standard workstation configuration. You can go and get more information > about this company from their website: http://www.cxp.com. If you would like > further information, please e-mail me privately and not send it to the list. > Thanks. -- Jonathan M. Slivko > > -- > Jonathan M. Slivko > Systems Administrator, APPL Technologies > Global IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Network > website: http://webpage.pace.edu/js43064n/ > > "Microsoft, is that some kind of toilet paper?" > -- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Vermillion > To: > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 6:47 PM > Subject: Re: Redundancy... > > > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 06:03:04PM -0500, Drew J. Weaver thus spoke: > > > > > On a side note, make sure that the ISP that you co-locate has gas > > > powered generators as well as backups protecting your servers, > > > or it wont really do you much good to have it hosted out of some > > > guy's basement =) > > > > Gas powered generators are typically on the small side. Serious > > generators are typically diesel. To me the best way is to find an > > ISP who is co-located inside a carrier [we've done that with our > > ISP], and rely on humoungous UPS and the 1MW+ Cat generators. Not > > the cheapest but IMO the best. Prices aren't the cheapest - but > > not that bad either. eg a 1 RU server with 1.5Mbit guaranteed > > bandwith on our 100MB uplink to the OC192 - is $850 month. > > > > It all depends on what you are trying to accomplish and how > > critical the servers are. > > > > > This may or may not be an option, but segregate the resources that > > > much be live 24x7 (probably not your office client server > > > applications) and co-locate those. Don't bother having a local copy > > > of them since it is probably just as easy to update the content at > > > your co-located site. > > > > > > Then the only thing you keep local is your interoffice lcient server > > > stuff shich if the building goes down, nobody is live to use anyway. > > > > > We would want to co-locate 4-5 boxes (all FreeBSD & 1 NT). One > > > box is a DB server (MySQL) and the others are web servers. We > > > currently are no co-locating. All of our boxes are currently under > > > our roof along with the bandwidth (2 T-1's). As we found out, the > > > biggest point of failure that we have is if there is an extended > > > power outage at our location. > > > > > > > > > -- > > Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message