From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 24 13:53:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 268CF7DC for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 13:53:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm4.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm4.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F6E8FC0C for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 13:53:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.48] by nm4.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Nov 2012 13:53:47 -0000 Received: from [217.146.188.160] by tm1.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Nov 2012 13:53:47 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp128.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Nov 2012 13:53:47 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1353765227; bh=hiWUy99HR63m2SCP8keHXmzSNCvzdHjAo6U86v62cao=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=rCd2gDmyRMO6+O3QJPpK000IF7p9qgjn8lNs9hHF4i70dyAYWVroIHpjQzln051iLeM0LXY1L/Fs5028ogN92jqwvwGcVzLptOTib7Gsybyc0xZppVBWvZnJngakeD6Ln45GAN1r0zW0Q4fIbcrVcTwB7DCzazUH2km8+IDUUYs= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 207563.64734.bm@smtp128.mail.ird.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: J.i9mlAVM1l_VMQOXiNfAz4FAEWxk5jfDC5OQh4Sw5cVlcu TfrkEJgvF2KBQF5uwTPRzED0xt_EUx8DIbnU6qxv395isKQ59PWkXONEQW8Y ESOPNC4zf3dQGGLanm2PLr4df_d5daxGrVxYY63DZXSjCGfgusS8uZzyQjV6 fWjJXELsw.yQJH7pa2Ry2Tql4_p.l.wbyvRKu.V22K8HHJeuLoovAXbMiPiW K5R4cH37SxVScwyPCpwiwqjqEeOoYyPDBkhxq_7IadDZFB340YUJ2jT2lBRi wOibMdzIFfG56q0PIKt2hGhoU6qpADPQpvZHC3ecOSuRmED0i6ejOHS6VbAK IhAzWBjcTPHe3WAjDB9DoCD7jgCgOT6DnFKQqWESo7TW5sg6DESYTqTBcF.E mSwJDqQyZhtWqsiEqdMPIsoUZuPhrJkuSwKCuwF6KxnVxupt6dLVS.Aqg1xf rkA7nInNuP_0BcLAXhgqNJCuZbqgDz0e69RqtyK1qEF7U5KNVZSdd_a3TdfG NGCrIGmWczvMaHMYPvPBY X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from [92.231.4.54] (ralf.mardorf@92.231.4.54 with login) by smtp128.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Nov 2012 05:53:47 -0800 PST Message-ID: <1353765225.2641.9.camel@q> Subject: Re: RME audio card user new to FreeBSD From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 14:53:45 +0100 In-Reply-To: <201211241339.qAODdbHs087952@triton8.kn-bremen.de> References: <50AFD823.2050203@freebsd.org> <1353710659.11101.58.camel@q> <201211232214.qANMEh7x030303@triton8.kn-bremen.de> <201211241339.qAODdbHs087952@triton8.kn-bremen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.6.0-0ubuntu3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 13:53:55 -0000 On Sat, 2012-11-24 at 14:39 +0100, Juergen Lock wrote: > In article <1353710659.11101.58.camel@q> you write: > >On Fri, 2012-11-23 at 23:14 +0100, Juergen Lock wrote: > >> Btw there is another solution to this problem: while loader(8) > >> cannot boot from 'extended' slices, grub2 actually can if you > >> tell it to load kernel and klds itself instead of chainloading > >> loader. Only there is a bug preventing 9.1/amd64 and later kernels > >> from starting so you either need to add a patch to grub 2.00 or use > >> grub bzr. The patch I mirrored here: > >> > >> http://people.freebsd.org/~nox/tmp/grub2-paste_180121.patch > >> > >> Here is an example to have grub2 load kernel and klds itself: > >> > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-multimedia/2011-March/011828.html > >> > >> (use 'set root=(hd0,5)' etc instead of 'set root=(hd0,1)' for an > >> extended slice.) > >> > >> PR to update the sysutils/grub2 port to 2.00 + bugfix: > >> > >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/170417 > >> > >> (tho I atually have debian Linux on that box too and just installed > >> grub 2.00 manually there with the patch.) > > > >Hi Juergen, > > > >thank you. If possible I'll avoid to install GRUB 2, I hate GRUB 2. If > >possible I'll stay with GRUB legacy or use something similar, e.g. > >Syslinux. > > > >I want a clear configuration for the menu. The menu must not! be > >automatically generated, since this is impossible for my needs. > > > >I experienced GRUB 2 as a PITA and only would use it, if there will be > >no other bootloader that is to my taste. > > Hm I don't think grub legacy nor syslinux can load FreeBSD kernels > and klds directly, grub2 is the only bootloader I know besides > loader(8) that can. > > Sorry... > Juergen Hi Juergen, since I cleaned a primary partition/slice, I hope it will be possible to chainload. I read the installation guide of the handbook and IIRC this will work. Your hint IIUC is only needed, if I wish to boot from a logical partition? I'm ready to lightscribe and burn the 9.0 DVD right now and later today I'll install FreeBSD. If IIUC the installer will not overwrite the MBR, IOW I'll be able to boot Linux and than to edit GRUB legacy's menu.lst to chainload FreeBSD. Regards, Ralf