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Date:      Sat, 07 Jul 2001 17:04:48 -0400
From:      Bill Moran <wmoran@iowna.com>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: JFS
Message-ID:  <3B477970.2CD1B73B@iowna.com>
References:  <200107071638.SAA19610@lurza.secnetix.de> <01070711475500.00362@dave> <3B476285.43347BA1@nasby.net> <000d01c1074e$49d31ba0$0300a8c0@uhring.com>

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Dave Uhring wrote:
> You seem to have missed the critical point of that paper.  When the
> system goes completely haywire and either crashes or locks up so hard
> that a manual reset is required, UFS/softupdates requires a substantial
> amount of time to run fsck.  If you have a very large filesystem, you
> then have to w....a....i....t until fsck completes.  And if you are
> lucky, it will not terminate with the suggestion that you run fsck by
> hand.  With a true journalling filesystem this wait is obviated.  The
> last transactions are rerun or truncated and the system boots up.

Actually ... according to the article, the system boots up and _then_
determines what needs done to repair the filesystem.

Also, the lack of a need for fscking is not the only benefit of
RieserFS. In fact, it's a _minor_ improvement. If your system is
going down so often that the speed of a fsck is a major factor in the
layout of the system, you've got other issues you need to address
first!
The other issues that might make Reiserfs a good idea (and a possible
improvement over UFS) are the various improvements such as small
file storage and large directory storage. I know that I'm interested
in seeing performance comparisons with regard to these factors, and
so far, I've seen none that compare ReiserFS to UFS/softupdates.

My $.02

-Bill

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