From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 30 10:27:57 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54B3C63FB for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2019 10:27:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd2f.google.com (mail-io1-xd2f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2f]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 235A293666 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2019 10:27:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd2f.google.com with SMTP id s7so126710399iob.11 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2019 03:27:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=z9bnbuB3uXMcA2HOopjXwJ87VT8jKMxC8+FW9Zw5sK4=; b=jhAZ3KbddHafSrAi/RUx/NVkhXUFX50bHj4zXhbZgTTYpww74zjo3d8xdmv5noyK6s nz+CFjeXD3dSc0PSt/biVG+EeW6pXtI5R1nas6+y/aagYVIZiOliv6FI/k51z0Ut4Fk2 QBi7D5J2d+kxtsoqnIwpg5cVv4RnB8VqRwWTTiqir+3JnTImrUvI9BKwxRZ6DV86oF0b V1sr5gl36Wo8uxvwKj4im4dAoOkO0/QYxdpNjegMDaBPElIW9gJRikdU8VznmSJd8rj6 /lmGDpVn3kbB5ixb8UFcxH7meXovENAJRDe7iF546JJjo2GSn1h8PwXUvLp0O7mZYeBK XA3g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=z9bnbuB3uXMcA2HOopjXwJ87VT8jKMxC8+FW9Zw5sK4=; b=M7+fPa1ZqwrEj7XVYKrPmYgbPiKplVdtaGCCmeGaPa3uWbr1FPTV+7111i6R2D7W2E j0FNYNkZQ8jn2j7+BNmE2EwpP2w0aZxBdBzzehTVYtwIbsGvoJzfGoorKUM9IVWQrXEr wmeLKIIk1kfVNAsSxXmHAcuksr40BtWwmIDD3C4GTkAeCYNNETHVEcml7cjmN4gTMLcS LeD11Xu5oGBl8YfT77FbtlI7apzMUAdn66U5fO1tjPa6oYG72v902dcvTThkPds3FGik QKgpCbNkMkcPD1h0ZfTV0oRH1L8SSxkCkO/lZ4/Eeh6w6aeSC79h8F4+7dBtk68u4qB7 r5RA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAU5i3mv5h0lXCysPIKp28JepDjEdO3jVtL3th1axG53vGzZSyvd u8GYAxMqDa5T6z9zJXlsVXgZv4RdGTzR92VAdBA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzvYoCfoJgxxJ8a/qeaSyT4kqVe8SWP/uuQ1fc7M+cYJQcQ7/yq5UJs4WXz5X1u332vE2rwaWPBW67Oec+AUas= X-Received: by 2002:a5e:881a:: with SMTP id l26mr81466060ioj.185.1564482476512; Tue, 30 Jul 2019 03:27:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5ceb24c1-66ce-2603-5eed-78283d9676b7@holgerdanske.com> <23861.63968.885139.970960@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <1618173539.5511975.1563822072600@mail.yahoo.com> <1125579496.1306494.1563881223475@mail.yahoo.com> <20190723173126.2a26ee26@archlinux> <20190723204435.51c334d6@archlinux> <20190723235405.761f1663@gumby.homeunix.com> <1017844498.2766939.1564400418639@mail.yahoo.com> <699480245e5ffd26d5fb8b34efc8272a@fechner.net> <20190729210007.1be50ad8@moonstudio> <1757593433.2684240.1564453198466@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 06:27:43 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Best hardware for a replacement desktop? To: Paul Pathiakis Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , Ralf Mardorf X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 235A293666 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=jhAZ3Kbd; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aryehfriedman@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2f as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aryehfriedman@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.16 / 15.00]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[yahoo.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-2.19)[ip: (-5.36), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-3.09), asn: 15169(-2.45), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.964,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[f.2.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 10:27:57 -0000 On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 10:50 PM Aryeh Friedman wrote: Item Price Comments -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MSI B450 Tomahawk (motherboard) 85 No complaints beyond not very clear instructions about what screws to use for what purpose and the manual has the build order wrong IMO (attach everything before putting in case).... vmm(4) loads fine have not yet tried bhyve/vbox yet Just did a quick test of installing a fbsd 12-release instance on vbox works fine (with NAT'ed NIC's)... the next and final test (at this point I see no reason why it wouldn't work unless the bhyve command line has changed since 11.3) is install PetiteCloud and set up some boot time vm's on it (finally got some time to update PC to handle non-Unix-like VM's so I guess it is time to start writting some code again ;-)) -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org