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Zeeb" Cc: Ed Maste , src-committers@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000050e3f40644746a20" X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4dGL0K1dQNz3sFs --00000000000050e3f40644746a20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 25, 2025 at 1:30=E2=80=AFPM Bjoern A. Zeeb < bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net> wrote: > On Tue, 25 Nov 2025, Ed Maste wrote: > > >> Would it not have been easier to fix the cause (to stabilize this for > good)? > >> > >> I assume it's sys/modules/mqueue/Makefile ? > > > > That's one issue, cy@ reported a different one that I don't yet > > understand. I intend to recommit this next week - I just reverted it > > for now because we're in stabweek. > > I think it's really time to get anything non-essential out of GENERIC and > have > it only as a module. We'll quickly catch more. Also GENERIC gets smalle= r, > which is a nice side-effect :) > Yes. I'd like to get that done for 16. Move to something much closer to MINIMAL than we have today... Warner --00000000000050e3f40644746a20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Tue, Nov 25,= 2025 at 1:30=E2=80=AFPM Bjoern A. Zeeb <bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l= eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Tue, 25 Nov 2025, Ed Ma= ste wrote:

>> Would it not have been easier to fix the cause (to stabilize this = for good)?
>>
>> I assume it's sys/modules/mqueue/Makefile ?
>
> That's one issue, cy@ reported a different one that I don't ye= t
> understand. I intend to recommit this next week - I just reverted it > for now because we're in stabweek.

I think it's really time to get anything non-essential out of GENERIC a= nd have
it only as a module.=C2=A0 We'll quickly catch more.=C2=A0 Also GENERIC= gets smaller,
which is a nice side-effect :)

Yes. I&#= 39;d like to get that done for 16. Move to something much closer to MINIMAL= than we have today...

Warner=C2=A0
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