Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 20:25:27 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au> To: Gary Dunn <knowtree@aloha.com> Cc: Alexander Motin <mav@freebsd.org>, "Paul B. Mahol" <onemda@gmail.com>, FreeBSD acpi <freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD-Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fighting for the power. Message-ID: <20090512182420.K46325@sola.nimnet.asn.au> In-Reply-To: <1242110455.2664.9.camel@slate01> References: <49FE1826.4060000@FreeBSD.org> <4A07BC4D.7080604@freebsd.org> <4A081868.6010906@FreeBSD.org> <3a142e750905111308o62a11c8em5465ea9aa1cfaebc@mail.gmail.com> <4A08B10E.4040702@FreeBSD.org> <1242110455.2664.9.camel@slate01>
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On Mon, 11 May 2009, Gary Dunn wrote: > On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 02:13 +0300, Alexander Motin wrote: > ... > > > > What's about general effect, the main idea here is the same as in audio > > processing: result mostly depends on quality of the worst component. > > Your system may just have some other consumers which I don't have. For > > example, desktop CPU instead of mobile, desktop chipset instead of > > mobile, powerful external video instead of (or even in addition to) > > built-in, and so on. > > > > Interesting point. Is there a power consumption benchmark for evaluating > hardware for use with FreeBSD? make buildworld, running on battery? :-) More seriously: thanks to Nate's earlier niggling, I've been thinking towards a richer set of power profiles than our {performance,economy} dichotomy for a while, both in terms of various different work/play and AC/battery scenarious, and re specific settings that may be more or less optimal for particular hardware, that could be distributed or advised as more of a basic working set rather than as a series of 'try this' hints. Many of the useful points Alexander makes apply to lots of recent kit, but perhaps not as applicably to some older machines - just one example being whether using C3 is likely to help or hinder, eg with the C3 quirks for (some) PIIX4 chipset variants that got some work last? year. I'm not a C programmer, so I've been thinking more towards inclusion as a deeper level of rc.conf variables and parsing of these by sh script, tweaking sysctls after the fashion of the present power_profile and its triggering by devd events. Some features of individual machine / scenario profiles could include min/max cpu freq settings, whether or not to use p4tcc/acpi_throttle, highest C-state, powerd high/low load shift up/down percentages, and perhaps whether or not to power-down (D3) various devices/subsystems .. Recent exposure to (debian etch) cpufreqd profiles provides a few more ideas, eg here are a few examples from its default cpufreqd.conf, noting that cpufreqd and friends are add-ons, not system components, in debian. # stay in performance mode for the first minutes [Rule] name=AC Off - High Power ac=off # (on/off) battery_interval=70-100 #exec_post=echo 5 > /proc/acpi/sony/brightness profile=Performance Low [/Rule] # conservative mode when not AC [Rule] name=AC Off - Medium Battery ac=off # (on/off) battery_interval=30-70 #exec_post=echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sony/brightness profile=Powersave High [/Rule] # conservative mode when not AC [Rule] name=AC Off - Low Battery ac=off # (on/off) battery_interval=0-30 #exec_post=echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sony/brightness profile=Powersave Low [/Rule] ## # Special Rules ## # CPU Too hot! [Rule] name=CPU Too Hot acpi_temperature=55-100 cpu_interval=50-100 profile=Performance Low [/Rule] # use performance mode if I'm watching a movie # I don't care for batteries! # But don't heat too much. [Rule] name=Movie Watcher programs=xine,mplayer,gmplayer battery_interval=0-100 acpi_temperature=0-60 cpu_interval=0-100 profile=Performance High [/Rule] cheers, Ian
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