From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 15 19:37:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1322116A4DD for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 19:37:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.candler@pobox.com) Received: from rune.pobox.com (rune.pobox.com [208.210.124.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF9F43D8E for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 19:37:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from b.candler@pobox.com) Received: from rune (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rune.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E547C71A; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:37:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mappit.local.linnet.org (212-74-113-67.static.dsl.as9105.com [212.74.113.67]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by rune.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1F8F7B831; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:37:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brian by mappit.local.linnet.org with local (Exim 4.61 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GD4il-000Nhx-TG; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 20:37:03 +0100 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 20:37:03 +0100 From: Brian Candler To: Chuck Swiger Message-ID: <20060815193703.GA91105@uk.tiscali.com> References: <200608141555.k7EFthXw092647@lurza.secnetix.de> <44E0C450.8050602@fsn.hu> <20060815122533.GB89848@uk.tiscali.com> <20060815123032.GR8503@catpipe.net> <6FAF95DA-76D5-4D72-A3C5-88AEA6F13267@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6FAF95DA-76D5-4D72-A3C5-88AEA6F13267@mac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Redundant/failover NFS servers - stale NFS file handle X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 19:37:24 -0000 On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 11:20:47AM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Aug 15, 2006, at 5:30 AM, Phil Regnauld wrote: > >Brian Candler (B.Candler) writes: > >>So to make an update, you would have to unmount from box 2, > >>remount RW on > >>box 1, make the change, remount RO on box 1, and mount RO again on > >>box 2. > > > > To make it short: if you want a reliable NFS head, you need NetApp. > > If you want to make failover, you'll need something like WAFL that > > has virtual inodes and allows for concurrent access from multiple > > writers. This is more of a freebsd-fs discussion. > > I think Solaris also makes a reliable NFS platform, and it even > supports failover and replication for read-only mounts. For read/ > write replicated filesystems, you're probably looking at AFS (Andrew > File System, but an opensource version is at www.openafs.org from > IBM, who apparently bought out Transarc) or maybe Coda. Hmm, I'm not sure I'd want to run Maildir on either of those, or at least Coda. When I looked at Coda, ISTR you could have conflicting updates in disconnected operation which required manual intervention to fix. Admittedly this was a few years ago, maybe things have moved on since then. Regards, Brian.