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Quoth Nate Williams on Wed, 9 September:
: 
: Forgive me for sounding naive, but I don't understand the problem.  Why
: can't you use interfaces to avoid the dependency problem?  That's what
: we've done, and it's turned out to be give us both a 'more effecient'
: build platform, but also a cleaner design as we've extended it.

Indeed you can go a long way by separating interfaces, my previous
(admittedly theoretical) point regarding intrinsic mutual recursion
notwithstanding, and in fact I do, but on this particular project I
came across at least one case in which I could not find a good way to
factor out the circular dependency.  I don't recall the specifics.  It
may have been simply that the sheer number of interfaces required
would have represented unconscionable over-engineering... which tends
to argue that there was a design flaw, whether original or introduced
by changing requirements.  But I don't have sufficient interest to do
the archaeology.

Anyhow, the upshot is that javac can hang in the presence of a large
class of syntax errors when there is circular dependency, and so I found
pizza expedient.

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