From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Nov 12 18:36:17 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81793C78F29 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2017 18:36:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from mail-qt0-x22e.google.com (mail-qt0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3885A7063A for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2017 18:36:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by mail-qt0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id n32so1046204qtb.2 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2017 10:36:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=chen-org-nz.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=df0nxuB9eynAanA9kyvgZdEUk1hIvbN60pbLZNHTXT4=; b=Py2ZYUhBgyxA3IqF9jLMNgi/hfTUrOW7D8XyrHdAWzUOYvWG/ytijuURphvXmzAKIH VIx7Gti6zg0zuVo6RF6/qRQJlUfgY00gPiaZEIGkAFU3i63UYZ9NtgKGpqh1O6lgp127 2hRXuSa0TTF6K3efINMy9WmAn144aih8LjuQfakRQlczwS74nvGm6gVBvFuZA8D77fo7 WD6v8/a2vG/KchaypoYyK+L7dEzHADZ0Ub3/iqj2aTiUBgI6uJFUgLAS6xS9wSG3iv8b 5pogMfRb5lHv+p9j5eSBcKM1uZPtVzL5OACaMinFzcKiguqpaD9rPbxZfoOj+4tcsAKr P2XQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=df0nxuB9eynAanA9kyvgZdEUk1hIvbN60pbLZNHTXT4=; b=ge1As5vkuXwHph18rDQPX+Fx54+bXDNReu6M5rm/2A6wBOZRCsbY6TocuHN+v4IEJD r2vgkO2tFbLcpSLJfrqDEOmhpITf3SispOqpuZcWqYM2JF/QrkN/fVK07o9X17QDQZSG n6Ljbqb+OyONa6JzaTSys6ffJi9VDSO8GNqzONxbFtAXyFYWsx64I9fcIH+RUTzbJ0nL CYjzhncOuX5M+Eq8W/XngCpeJjuCbMch2iXSq6++dABLkKpBBnSGuY/VmUVWQlj+gh/4 E5F5ToJvbvh159U8cBgiwfFR2SrWh2oFIPhWoxiQIfyGm6gxZjWXaVa8TfoG2/VJqPDB DSHw== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX6bQ8CkA7cDPTVUN9+nbJDG5n+aqhpUtBx09mUvUejPW9SXOITm +yMcwyEiIfwLwGXHTSF5srCBCxqyt/bSxr8pM++T8g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMYAykHK6i61aZmZe4uYu3wFai7m8Vi9QzTrTH7+kH9dAYnlzWNC2PiUVBCHBIfw9f+d58ShIN2MwQ8V8ohoEWE= X-Received: by 10.200.19.11 with SMTP id e11mr10793141qtj.68.1510511776274; Sun, 12 Nov 2017 10:36:16 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.42.35 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Nov 2017 10:36:15 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [203.99.129.1] In-Reply-To: References: From: Jonathan Chen Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:36:15 +1300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Firefox (Doesn't) Build To: Grzegorz Junka Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2017 18:36:17 -0000 On 13 November 2017 at 07:33, Jonathan Chen wrote: > On 13 November 2017 at 00:03, Grzegorz Junka wrote: >> On 12/11/2017 07:14, Jonathan Chen wrote: >>> >>> On 12 November 2017 at 12:16, Patrick Dorion >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> What's the difference between using Poudriere or Synth, though? >>>> >>>> This is a clean system, I can't imagine a jail being cleaner... it was >>>> unpacked from the DVD the day before yesterday.... >>> >>> Both are clean room builds; ie where only minimal build dependancies >>> are installed for each port build. The main difference is that: >>> * poudriere uses jails to achieve this >>> * synth uses unionfs+chroot to achieve this >> >> >> Does it mean synth can't be used on ZFS? AFAIK unionfs isn't properly >> supported on ZFS, i.e. a file that exists in the underlying fs can't be >> marked as deleted in the overlying fs. > > synth uses unionfs for read-only access to the build-host's files; eg: > ports-dir, system binaries. In normal operation, all build artifacts > are generated onto on an isolated tmpfs filesystem. There are no > additions/removals on the build-host's filesystem. Sorry, this is not true. The build logs and generated packages *do* affect the build-host's filesystem; but the build operations do not. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen