From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 2 08:43:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B5D9106564A for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 08:43:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.org) Received: from dragon.nuxi.org (trang.nuxi.org [74.95.12.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 091088FC18 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 08:43:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dragon.nuxi.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pB28hv49085915; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 00:43:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.org (8.14.5/8.14.4/Submit) id pB28hvKB085914; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 00:43:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 00:43:57 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Max Khon Message-ID: <20111202084357.GB85770@dragon.NUXI.org> Mail-Followup-To: obrien@freebsd.org, Max Khon , freebsd-current References: <20111202015537.GB4111@dragon.NUXI.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.99-CURRENT X-to-the-FBI-CIA-and-NSA: HI! HOW YA DOIN? User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-current Subject: Re: removing libreadline from base system X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 08:43:58 -0000 On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 12:57:20PM +0700, Max Khon wrote: > On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 8:55 AM, David O'Brien wrote: > If you go with (2) above, we'll still have *tons* of ports that want a > > libreadline, so we'll just end up growing a port of it and we'll wind up > > with a libreadline on the system anyway. > > Then you need to define what base system is. Eh? Its the same definition has been for the past 17 years -- that which is in /usr/src. As long as there is a GPL consumer of libreadline in /usr/src, there is no benefit to kicking libreadline out of /usr/src. I understand the anti-GPL sentiment -- I've done my share over the years to help achieve a GPL-free FreeBSD. But until there is a debugger that is anywhere near as capable (and mature) as GDB, we'll have a few GPL bits in /usr/src. I see that as OK -- its is small and contained. Show me a non-GPL consumer of libreadline in /usr/src and I'll do everything I can to have it work with libedit. When I added the libreadline compatibility to libedit, I changed all the non-GPL libreadline uses I knew of to libedit. > We have much more ports that depend on libintl or libglib2 than > libreadline. Should we add these libs to the base system too? Please tell me what consumer of libintl or libglib2 we have in /usr/src. > Also, almost all ports require gmake and autotools to be built. Should we > add them to the base system too? You're now being quite ridiculous. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org)