From owner-freebsd-sparc Wed Dec 9 23:37:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA15084 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 23:37:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA15079 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 23:37:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (haldjas.folklore.ee [172.17.2.1] (may be forged)) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA10041; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:36:40 +0200 (EET) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:36:40 +0200 (EET) From: Narvi To: Greg Lehey cc: John Birrell , Alfred Perlstein , freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Read this... In-Reply-To: <19981210110516.V12688@freebie.lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 10 Dec 1998, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Thursday, 10 December 1998 at 7:47:48 +1100, John Birrell wrote: > > Alfred Perlstein wrote: > >> Will someone with more courage and experiance than I please speak up about > >> this, perhaps contact sun? > > > > Please _don't_ ask Sun for anything until you have a working port on > > limited hardware. I doubt that anyone following this list would be > > prepared to spend $$$ based on what has been said so far. Those people > > who have access to Sun machines should be able to do a port with neither > > financial nor moral support from Sun. If you want this sort of support, > > you have to earn it. > > I suppose I should point you people to > http://www.lemis.com/x/sunworld-bsd.html, which is a draft of an > article I've submitted to SunWorld. This is for review only in the > present form; please don't distribute it, but I'd be interested in > comments. > > One thing in particular occurred to me in this context: why does Sun > want Linux or *BSD? On the whole, Solaris this week> is a pretty good operating system, and neither Linux nor > *BSD can equal it. What advantage would I have running FreeBSD on my > UltraSparc? Or should we be doing what NetBSD and OpenBSD are already > doing and running it on older (32 bit) Sparc hardware? Just a thought - Sun sells not only Ultra based systems but also Ultra processsors and motherboards. The emphasis of these is both OEMs and embedded market. Would they want that there is an OS with teh following parameters: a) Insert all the good sides of FreeBSD here, inc. VM, TCP/IP stack, etc. b) which is very low cost c) comes with source d) is under the BSD licence If the answer is yes, then we know why Sun might want FreeBSD on UltraSparc. Sander There is no love, no good, no happiness and no future - all these are just illusions. > > Greg > -- > See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers > finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message